I have a loss of power & when I press the go peddle down Sometimes it just boggs down, until it finally jumps into a lower gear. So anyway, I took it to the dealer they said it has a p0216 code & that they would have to put a lift pump w/ transferpump coverion kit on & that would fix me right up. RIGHT!!
On a trip the next day I still have the same symtoms. The truck is a 02 2500 so I clicked the key 3 times & it gives me a p1693 & p0216. One of my questions is when they did the work shouldn`t it of cleared the code? I guess what I mean is am I getting this code agian because they need to fix something eles? Any help would be great.

 

All of the 0216 I have heard of have been related to the VP44 (injector pump) failure. General concensus is that a weak or bad fuel pump will cause the VP failure, but will not fix it. Popular defination: P0216-FUEL INJECTOR PUMP TIMING FAILURE. Note that it says "injector pump", not "fuel pump".

Maybe the dealer just don't know a lot about injector pumps or work on them very much. Take it back and explain the difference if you have to.

 

Guys out here in the desert that tow heavy in the summer can set P0216 codes with no drivability issues. 2cycle oil usually took care of that issue. From a warranty standpoint, and probably not a bad angle if it were your coin, was that if the lift pump failed the volume test, replace it and clear the codes, test drive, and see if the p0216 came back. If the code popped back up it was VP time.....if not, your VP dodged a bullit.

 

I'm a little unclear on this. Are you saying that, in some cases, 2cycle oil can take care of the 0216? With your years of experience, I don't doubt your word, it's just that I don't ever remember hearing or reading that. How does the 2cycle oil effect the timing control circuit?

 

Actually Crob tech center told me that one back around 1999. I had about three trucks that would have intermittant check engine lights and P0216 codes. They advised me to have them add 1qt of 2 cycle oil to a full tank. There explanation was due to the extreme heat the fuel needed more lubricity??? They were local trucks that moved RV's and were pulling some heavy trailers in our lovely 125+ temps. Not sure why, but it seemed to work. I know since then I always added some to mine during the extreme heat season if I was pulling my trailer. Never had a code, but my trailer only weighs around 8500lb tops.....and it certainly didn't prevent my VP from dying three years ago (85k miles, 127 degree day).

 

Thanks for the info. We have to believe those guy's know what they're talking about.

I started adding the 2cycle about two months before my VP died (P1688). At a little over 200K, I wasn't surprised when it went.....I just wish I had been a little closer than 1200 miles from home.

 

0216 can also be erroneously set by a dying lift pump.

Lift pump hiccups or gets an air bubble and passes that on to the VP44,
vanes aren't pushing fuel anymore but air, so they speed up and voila, timing error.

If you have the 0216 without the classic symptoms (bad idle, missing, dead peddle, smoke, etc), it might be the lift pump at fault.


phox

 

My problem is that I still have all the symtoms that I had before the dealer worked on it & The 0216 code is on the comp when I checked. Taking it back to dealer Tuesday hope they can figure something out.

 

Be polite, but insist on a new injector pump before the warrenty runs out.

 

Good News, I guess, talked to the dealership today & they said since code
p0216 came back after they cleared it, they will replace the injection pump.
Hope that solves the problem. I will post agian on thursday

 

Good news for you that your getting a new VP from Dodge but was this on an extended warranty you bought from Dodge. Just curious as I know my VP is dying but no codes yet.

Thanks.

 

....and that pretty much is in line with the diagnostics required.

 

I`m the origanal owner, I think the problem falls back to the drivetrain 100000
mile/7 year warranty, because I didn`t purchase any extra warranty from the dealer

 

Read you warranty book closely regarding the Cummins engine. It states in the book that the warranty is for a period of 5 years and 100k and goes into effect AFTER the Dodge basic 3/36. So yes you are covered for 8/136 on the diesel engine and related parts. I just had mine replaced and got my money back from Chrysler.

 

Ok I just got my truck back from the dealer today. Running great but still has 1693 & p0216 codes on the comp,Don`t understand why these codes would still be in the comp after they repaced injectin pump & lift pump. I`m going to call them tomorrow & see why there still on there.Anybody eles know how to clear these?