Water/Methanol Injector Location ?
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Originally Posted by jrussell
Ok, after going back and looking at some older posts I think the issue is that the different companies rate their nozzles at different pressures. Wanna is using dual 10gph nozzles, but that is at only 60psi. I'm sure his nozzles would be closer to 16gph when at full pressure (100-150psi). Loch's flow rate was from an actual test of his nozzles and not a company's rating (19gph total). It would not surprise me if dual 16gph "rated" nozzles only flowed at a true total of 19gph when taking into account filters, restrictions, and boost. I assume the ratings for most nozzles are done on a bench and not installed in an actual vehicle?
David, have you put a pressure gauge on a large dual nozzle setup like mine to see what the system is actually pushing at 50%/75%/100% duty cycles?
David, have you put a pressure gauge on a large dual nozzle setup like mine to see what the system is actually pushing at 50%/75%/100% duty cycles?
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Originally Posted by coolingmist
Things like the amount of boost you are running of course has effects as well.
Before you do the calculation, subtract the boost pressure from the pump pressure to compensate. 100 psi at the pump and 30 psi in the intake means only 70 psi across the nozzle.
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I'm using the M14 hybrid and the M15.
The more I think about it the more I want a pressure gauge for the system so I know for sure what's going on. Not just for max pressures either, it would also be nice to know I am definitely atomizing when the system first kicks on.
The more I think about it the more I want a pressure gauge for the system so I know for sure what's going on. Not just for max pressures either, it would also be nice to know I am definitely atomizing when the system first kicks on.
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Originally Posted by wannadiesel
Right. Before you do the calculation, subtract the boost pressure from the pump pressure to compensate. 100 psi at the pump and 30 psi in the intake means only 70 psi across the nozzle.
Before you do the calculation, subtract the boost pressure from the pump pressure to compensate. 100 psi at the pump and 30 psi in the intake means only 70 psi across the nozzle.Point 1:
I never said it was "100" psi, I used that as an example.
Point 2:
I clearly said that doesnt include compensating for boost or other restrictions.
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Originally Posted by wannadiesel
Make sure you put a snubber in the gauge line or you'll never be able to read the gauge.
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Originally Posted by coolingmist
Point 1:
I never said it was "100" psi, I used that as an example.
Point 2:
I clearly said that doesnt include compensating for boost or other restrictions.
David
I never said it was "100" psi, I used that as an example.
Point 2:
I clearly said that doesnt include compensating for boost or other restrictions.
David
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Originally Posted by mhuppertz
Easy there David, no one is tryng to steal your trade secrets, guys just like to build their own stuff until they realize how hard it is and then just buy a system like yours!!!
I have no trade secrets that can be stolen, lol. I read my post and it looked a little rough, sorry about that.
Im just trying to support my customers.
David
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Originally Posted by coolingmist
Point 1:
I never said it was "100" psi, I used that as an example.
Point 2:
I clearly said that doesnt include compensating for boost or other restrictions.
David
I never said it was "100" psi, I used that as an example.
Point 2:
I clearly said that doesnt include compensating for boost or other restrictions.
David
I think Wanna was simply agreeing with you and offering up an example (using the same numbers you used). I did not take his post to mean anything negative towards you or CM, so that response seems a little harsh.
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Originally Posted by jrussell
I'm using the M14 hybrid and the M15.
The more I think about it the more I want a pressure gauge for the system so I know for sure what's going on. Not just for max pressures either, it would also be nice to know I am definitely atomizing when the system first kicks on.
The more I think about it the more I want a pressure gauge for the system so I know for sure what's going on. Not just for max pressures either, it would also be nice to know I am definitely atomizing when the system first kicks on.
Our pump starts at 25% duty cycle. If you want to raise that number for any reason you can do that in the software.
BTW that M15 is a good nozzle and atomizes very well.
Lastly,
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Originally Posted by jrussell
David,
I think Wanna was simply agreeing with you and offering up an example (using the same numbers you used). I did not take his post to mean anything negative towards you or CM, so that response seems a little harsh.
I think Wanna was simply agreeing with you and offering up an example (using the same numbers you used). I did not take his post to mean anything negative towards you or CM, so that response seems a little harsh.
When I wrote that I was not taking offense to what he said, just clarifying, but I did a terrible job of it.
I think we are both over that.
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Originally Posted by coolingmist
I have no trade secrets that can be stolen, lol. I read my post and it looked a little rough, sorry about that.
Im just trying to support my customers.
David
Im just trying to support my customers.
David
Hey, I even made the Pastor get testy one time!
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Everyone take a breath.
Creative discussion is what makes this work.
@ coolinmist: I do appreciate your taking the time to mess with this. It's a good indicator as to the level of customer support one can expect with your product. You can also see it as good dang-near live feedback for the product and how it's being applied and results.
Neat!
At this point, I've turned in the pumps high pressure cut-out switch 1.5 turns which is just shy of being all the way in.
As best I can tell, I'm running two of the 13N nozzles (18gph @ 150psig).
Seems to pull even harder.
Creative discussion is what makes this work.
@ coolinmist: I do appreciate your taking the time to mess with this. It's a good indicator as to the level of customer support one can expect with your product. You can also see it as good dang-near live feedback for the product and how it's being applied and results.
Neat!
At this point, I've turned in the pumps high pressure cut-out switch 1.5 turns which is just shy of being all the way in.
As best I can tell, I'm running two of the 13N nozzles (18gph @ 150psig).
Seems to pull even harder.
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Originally Posted by mhuppertz
What the heck is a snubber, some kind of isolation device?
http://www.mcmaster.com/nav/enter.asp?pagenum=0551