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Old 05-22-2017, 12:29 AM
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Good morning guys, i have a quick question on an hx35 i just picked up. It came out of either a 2001 or 2002 dodge 3500 dwr 4wd 6 speed pickup. I am looking to swap it into my 90 w250 non intercooled with 4 inch diamond eye exhaust. It came with the 45 degree elbow fixed to the exhaust and i understand i need to either buy the exhaust plate with the 3 inch flange or fab one up, as seen on another thread. I also get the part of the new intake that i have to make. My question is, with the wastegate bolted onto the compressor housing, how wud i go about clocking it to line up with the new crossover pipe? Im aware that i would have to disconnect it by removing the two bolts on the compressor housing but how wud i make it function if it will not be inline anymore? What options do i have? I saw a spring gate wastegate sold by crazy carl's but im not too familiar with such product. It is held by a bracket bolted to the oil line base as opposed to the compressor housing. CCT Spring Waste Gate HX35 & HE351

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Will something like this fix the problem i'll run into clocking the compressor housing? Thanks guys for all yalks help.
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I don't think you can clock the turbine (waste gate) housing as the exhaust flange where it meets the manifold and the housing itself is all one casting. Not sure how to solve your problem other than putting on an earlier turbo. The part you posted may be your best work around. I never used one but it looks like it would work if you have room. I'd give them a call and ask them.
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A vote for the earlier WH1C/HX35 also. Its wastegate system mounts completely on the ex housing so isn't affected by clocking. It also has the v-band plate that bolts right up to stock 1stgen exhaust.
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Originally Posted by u2slow
A vote for the earlier WH1C/HX35 also. Its wastegate system mounts completely on the ex housing so isn't affected by clocking. It also has the v-band plate that bolts right up to stock 1stgen exhaust.
I saw this pick online, he has his compressor housing clicked. It looks like he is running his waste gate shut because of tue plug on the compressor housing.

http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/at...0611-00120.jpg
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Originally Posted by MrFusion
I don't think you can clock the turbine (waste gate) housing as the exhaust flange where it meets the manifold and the housing itself is all one casting. Not sure how to solve your problem other than putting on an earlier turbo. The part you posted may be your best work around. I never used one but it looks like it would work if you have room. I'd give them a call and ask them.
I wanted to clock the compressor housing not the exhaust side. I've read that by compressing the big c clip at the rear you can clock the housing as needed? Please clarify if i'm wrong, all of this turbo information is new to me.
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I will get a picture of my HX35 when it gets lighter outside.
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Originally Posted by fazmig
I saw this pick online, he has his compressor housing clicked. It looks like he is running his waste gate shut because of tue plug on the compressor housing.

http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/at...0611-00120.jpg
I would guess a 14 or 16 cm non-wastegated turbine housing.
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You can (and need to, naturally) clock your compressor housing just as you describe.

Check to see if your new exhaust housing has un-used mounting holes tapped and threaded around the waste-gate actuating shaft and arm. If that is the case, you should be able to use these to mount a bracket that extends out to hold the actuator head and rod assembly (similar to the bracket on the earlier 2nd gen trucks, but parallel to the turbine shaft instead of perpendicular to it). You might even be able to buy an actuator unit on e-bay that has the bracket configuration you need for short money.

I am not 100% sure that you have those mounting bosses and that you will not run into another clearance problem, but it is worth checking out.
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Here's mine 1990. Turbo is a 1997 HX35.
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Originally Posted by mknittle
Here's mine 1990. Turbo in a 1997 HX35.
^ Bingo.

I'm doing it a bit different on my 2wd RC... I got a reducer boot like this:
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...3/#post1331194

and exhaust is this:
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Originally Posted by u2slow
^ Bingo.

I'm doing it a bit different on my 2wd RC... I got a reducer boot like this:
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...3/#post1331194

and exhaust is this:
Looks good to me.
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DOH!! I mis-read your original post.
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Originally Posted by Alec
You can (and need to, naturally) clock your compressor housing just as you describe.

Check to see if your new exhaust housing has un-used mounting holes tapped and threaded around the waste-gate actuating shaft and arm. If that is the case, you should be able to use these to mount a bracket that extends out to hold the actuator head and rod assembly (similar to the bracket on the earlier 2nd gen trucks, but parallel to the turbine shaft instead of perpendicular to it). You might even be able to buy an actuator unit on e-bay that has the bracket configuration you need for short money.

I am not 100% sure that you have those mounting bosses and that you will not run into another clearance problem, but it is worth checking out.

I checked the turbo for those holes you were talking about and didnt see them. Has anyone welded on that aluminum compressor housing? I mean its just a two ear bracket that has to be welded for the new wastegate position.
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Originally Posted by fazmig
I checked the turbo for those holes you were talking about and didnt see them. Has anyone welded on that aluminum compressor housing? I mean its just a two ear bracket that has to be welded for the new wastegate position.
I think warpage could be a problem, there isn't much clearance in there.
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I have seen a pic somewhere of a new tab welded onto the compressor housing. I forget where though.

As cheap as a used/siezed WH1C can be (free to $100?) I would go that route.
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