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Old May 2, 2011 | 08:58 PM
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VP44 as an upgrade to VE?

First, does a VP44 have more fuel volume potential than a VE?
Second, has anyone built a standalone controller or a mechanical conversion for a VP44?
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Old May 2, 2011 | 09:08 PM
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why? if you want more fuel go with a p pump why make a good thing bad,,the little VE is bullet proof compared to a vp and guys are making some impressive # with a ve
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Old May 2, 2011 | 09:13 PM
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Not worth it, the you would have to replace it when it fails
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Old May 2, 2011 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mhuppertz
First, does a VP44 have more fuel volume potential than a VE?
Second, has anyone built a standalone controller or a mechanical conversion for a VP44?
I doubt anyone has wasted the time. You never know, though.

Hard to imagine anyone sinking the time, effort, or money into putting a pump on a 12V that is as weak and unreliable as a VP44. Life expectancy of those things is a little over 100K (per Bosch service center). Ruining a 12V, IMO.
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Old May 3, 2011 | 09:21 AM
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Ok, bad idea. I thought maybe the VP44 was an evolutution of the VE, but it sounds like more of a devilution.... I'm just casting about because I'm afraid I ruined my VE.
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Old May 3, 2011 | 10:33 PM
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Its been in the back of my mind before. If they can make 800+ hp with a vp44, then why can't we with a VE?
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Old May 4, 2011 | 08:02 AM
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from what I am gathering the only thing wrong with them is the electronics module that is on the pump gets too hot and fails. That is easily fixed with a pancake fan.
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Old May 4, 2011 | 01:56 PM
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I asked the same Q years ago
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...44-t60672.html
I got pretty much the same answers,lol.
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Old May 4, 2011 | 02:25 PM
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You know, if a guy looks around enough, you can find a good shape VE for a few hundred bucks. I have an extra sitting in my garage I picked up for $100.
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Old May 4, 2011 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 92smokin blacky
Its been in the back of my mind before. If they can make 800+ hp with a vp44, then why can't we with a VE?
The same reason we can't make 1,500 hp like a P-Pump. Their fueling capability is higher than the VE's (to one degree or another). Like a P-Pump, a modified VP44 can flow more fuel than a modified VE.
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Old May 4, 2011 | 06:39 PM
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There has got to be a way to convert a VP44 to mechanical controls. I need to get my hands on a VP44 core and take it apart.
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