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Old 06-07-2014, 10:52 PM
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Wonder if that would work for a 727?
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non lock-up 518

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Wonder if that would work for a 727?
yes it will i have done similar on 727 and 904s
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Originally Posted by jughead
yes it will i have done similar on 727 and 904s
So with the listed parts, a 727 can be made into a lock-up? the 47rh VB will fit?
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lovk-up 518

Originally Posted by NE frmhnd
So with the listed parts, a 727 can be made into a lock-up? the 47rh VB will fit?
never done it on diesel but dont see why not. have to use a switch for lock-up and for od i think be a little trial and ????
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Originally Posted by NE frmhnd
So with the listed parts, a 727 can be made into a lock-up? the 47rh VB will fit?

No, the 47RH valve body will not work. You will need a 727 lockup valve body. Earlier ones used a hydraulic lockup actuation method and later ones used a solenoid controlled by the PCM. I would recommend a later VB and use a switch. You will also have to drill and tap the back of the case on the left side just above the pan rail for the insulated connector to pass through.

You will also still have to do the conversion to the truck as the lockup torque converter is 1.125" thicker. At this point you may be better off just getting an OD trans and converting it to a lockup and a crossmember from a donor OD truck.
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No, the 47RH valve body will not work. You will need a 727 lockup valve body. Earlier ones used a hydraulic lockup actuation method and later ones used a solenoid controlled by the PCM. I would recommend a later VB and use a switch. You will also have to drill and tap the back of the case on the left side just above the pan rail for the insulated connector to pass through.

You will also still have to do the conversion to the truck as the lockup torque converter is 1.125" thicker. At this point you may be better off just getting an OD trans and converting it to a lockup and a crossmember from a donor OD truck.
thanks for straightning an old man out. thought about valve body later. old age working on what little brain i have left.
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No problem jug, I'm 57 and get confused from time to time as well.
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no Johnny it's called we suffer from CRS Can't remember Squat
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Originally Posted by simplysmn
no Johnny it's called we suffer from CRS Can't remember Squat
Better than Can't Remember to Squat!
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That's the good thing Guy's don't have to Squat lol Most of the Time .
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Originally Posted by simplysmn
no Johnny it's called we suffer from CRS Can't remember Squat
I prefer "confused" because in my mind it doesn't sound as bad early onset of oldtimers disease.
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True measure of a Mopar fanatic is how he can spend 2000 hours, $23 and 14 cases of Hams beer to make something that those other guys just go buy new for $2500! Excellent work! We are proud of you!
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Originally Posted by dieselluvr
True measure of a Mopar fanatic is how he can spend 2000 hours, $23 and 14 cases of Hams beer to make something that those other guys just go buy new for $2500! Excellent work! We are proud of you!

I have a 9 second Mopar small block, I can do anything.
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UPDATE: I checked the first full tank of fuel and got a solid increase of 1.5 MPG. But having said that I've been running the truck without it moving quite a bit as I'm fighting A/C issues plus it smokes a lot more now because of the load. I'm going to back off the smoke screw some and try to drive it decently. I'm still messing with the A/C though but hopefully I'll have that straightened out in the next week or so.
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I've often found that bringing up the smoke screw induces a turbo lag. Try tightening up the star wheel instead.


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