Hey I need some info
Yesterday Crossy's son mentioned that the 92 had a slow spooling turbo- I have a question about that okay so I am told if I put better injectors I need more air to keep the pistons clean right- with a more powerful turbo do I need to upgrade any gaskets mainly the head or will it be fine - I have found an upgrade kit http://www.gillettdiesel.comH1upgrad...wheel60mm.aspx
will this work or do i need an entire new turbo like this
http://www.citydiesel.net/dodgezilla-turbo-p-30.html
also I want to get a set of mickey thompson wheels I know the bolt pattern is 8 lugs but what is the spacing 6 1/2 or something like that I figure some 16 x 8 or 10s will work
Thanks Justin

 

The 92s had a large exhaust housing so they spool slow, if you get a smaller one like a 12cm which is good for 5spds or 14cm it will spool quicker. The 60mm compressor housing is a good upgrade as well but doesn't make it spool faster just pushes more air and adds a MWE slot.

 

unless if your making over 40psi of boost you will not have to worry about the head gasket generally.

 

What do you plan on doing with the truck? If bigger injectors are on your wish list, I would stay away from the GDS 60mm Comp. Wheel Upgrade. It is a pretty good upgrade if you plan on staying close to stock, but once you start playing with the pump a little, and install bigger injectors, it will just become useless.

If you don't plan on turning up the truck for a while, then you can just buy another exhaust housing for your turbo and put it on. If you plan on towing, I wouldn't suggest going any smaller than a 16cm housing, but if you don't ever tow, or tow light loads, than a 12cm housing would be a good choice with the 'Rag.

Hope that helps,

Parker

 

Yeah, what i meant was 92's have a big exhaust housing.

You could just buy an aftermarket 16cm exhaust housing.

 

Hi parker
thanks for the info - right now the truck is sitting in my yard - i bought it not this sunday but last - i only have my permit b/c i'm 16 but instead of spending all my money restoring my 1939 farmall m tractor this summer i will put my cash into the truck i will use it just for a daily driver once i get my license and to tow my mowers in the summer to cut lawns so i want a little more hp but not to much which turbo is best for towing/fuel economy
thanks justin

 

If you're just going to be towing a couple mowers, I would suggest leaving the VE alone, and getting some bigger injectors. New Era 370's would be a good choice. A lot more power, clean burning, and you will still have good fuel mileage, if you keep your foot out of it. With a stock pump, the GDS 60mm Comp. Wheel upgrade would do fine, and you would hear a lot more turbo whistle.

I would also suggest getting a 4" Exhaust system. Since you're 16 I know you want to straight pipe it (who doesn't) so here are two sites with 4" systems that you can order with no muffler. www.sourceautomotive.biz talk to Rip, or www.stansheaders.com. I suggest Rip, he has a nice product and wonderful costumer service.

You will also need to invest in a set of gauges if you plan on adding more fuel. You need at least a pyro, but I suggest also getting a boost and fuel pressure gauge as well. As for the brand I prefer Isspro, they have never failed me or anyone I know, and I think they look the best out of all the different brands. I'll give you a link to a place with a good selection of gauges. Autometer doesn't have the best reputation with Diesel gauges, so I personally stay away from those, but it's your choice.

http://www.genosgarage.com/departments.asp?dept=192

Hope this helps Justin,

Parker

 

Thanks a bunch parker i have to hand it to you - you really are a wiz when it comes to the cummins thanks for all the advice
Justin

 

also are the new era 370 injectors the marine injectors where could i get them? sorry to bother you again im just really excited
Justin
spring isnt coming fast enough

 

http://www.neweradiesel.com/node/4

That's a link to the injectors they list on their site. Over to the right of the page should be a link that says "Click Here To E-Mail Us." If you click that and send Chuck a message about the 370's (or any of their injectors) he will be able to tell you all about them. I'm probably going to order a set pretty soon as well.

If you have any more questions, we are all happy to hear them.

Parker

 

Its stupid to add injectors and not tweak the pump.

Its like defeating the purpose of fun and VE pump

A little timing advance and turn your fuel pin And that will be good with some 370's.

The power screw is where it gets fun but thats when you burn your clutch.

refer to sticky for more power

You know you can make it run pretty good with stock injectors. Definely better than stock.

Get some gauges of course before you touch anything. Work on getting a 4 inch downpipe and exhaust or straight pipe your stock, and rig up a BHAF [big honking air filter] and that will be a start!!

Good luck Justin

Brandon

 

It's stupid to tweak the pump, add injectors and think you can actually use it to tow with a stock turbo. That might be the reason why Philip has 6X018's and hasn't turned up his pump.

As Philip has said many times, turning the fuel screw adds pressure to the pump, which the VE doesn't like, which in turn shortens the life of the pump.

What's stupid to me is telling somebody who might not know the side effects of turning the pump up to do it and not look back. They might want to know alternative options, such as bigger injectors to make power.

Justin, is case you doesn't know, and I forgot to mention it earlier, if you do plan on playing with the fuel screw with stock injectors you can almost certainly kiss you shut off solenoid goodbye. More pressure is put on the solenoid by turning the pump up, and stock I/C injectors don't flow that much fuel, so the tip will fail, and you will either have to use the shut down switch on the pump or install a pull cable. With bigger injectors however, this problem disappears due to more fuel flowing and less pressure on the solenoid.

 

If you add bigger injectors and don't add any timing then you won't even be getting fuel potential of the injectors??

Why do you think NON i/c trucks had more factory timing?...bigger injectors. Add bigger injectors with stock lousy I/C truck timing and You'll get about 1/2 of what you could.

Note I said tweak, not crank. I wasn't telling him to go jerk with his pump and crank his power screw in, a 180* rotation of the fuel pin and a 1/8 inch timing bump will not hurt a thing.

He's towing lawnmowers, towing a camper is a different story.

You can run a 5.9 cummins a 1350* all day long according to wannadiesel and i don't see how hes going to exceed that with some timing and and 370's. 370's aren't that big. there only 5x12 i believe.

 

I'm not calling you out or saying your wrong, im just stating my opinion. :coffee:

Go tweak your pump temporarily and tell me it ain't fun

,Brandon

 

I have never said bumping the timing was a bad idea. A 1/8 bump at least, to the head is a different story.

Note, I never said you said "crank." I was making a general statement about people who tell members who are new to their trucks to do that. People who think that is the only way to make power, are ignorant, plain and simple, and they shouldn't be spreading that to other new members. The cycle would continue so to speak.

He may be towing lawnmowers now, but what if a buddy needs him to tow his 12K trailer. If he is getting it hot running empty, there is no way he could tow anything. You always leave some wiggle room.

I personally don't like to see above 1200* for any period of time, but thats just me.