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Old 08-05-2012, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 12v85k30
im planning on swapping pulleys today or monday then ill get back with you, right now its a pig! ive got a 66/19 under it and with the super spinning so slow it is a huge restriction
Good to know. I was planning on overdriving the heck out of mine but don't have the ratios worked out yet.
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i believe 14k s/c rpm is safe, and 16k is doable but heat n reliability start mattering.

Thats what ford guys have said, but were feeding it psi and have large i/cs so depends on when you want x amout of boost and how safe ya want to play up top.
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Originally Posted by 12v85k30
i believe 14k s/c rpm is safe, and 16k is doable but heat n reliability start mattering.

Thats what ford guys have said, but were feeding it psi and have large i/cs so depends on when you want x amout of boost and how safe ya want to play up top.

That's great info, thanks!
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14k is the ragged edge of the S/C map...

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I haven't seen the map for the M90, but I would guess the map will be similar. Looks like I need about a 7K speed limit.
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stock mustang pulley ratios pull the m112 all the way to 14k in stock form. "Stock pulley @ 6500 rpm blower rpm is 13535" These guys arent afraid to spin these at 21k rpm with supporting mods.
i know that contradicts your map a little
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I was thinking about welding a second alternator pulley on and just driving from that, but I have to figure out the ratio first.
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Crank (6.5) running fan pulley (5), (8) running off fan to s/c(2.76) gives me 3psi at idle, the rest i cant attest for because belt slips anything more than idle. Need more wrap
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Ordered an alternator pulley today!
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I will have a 1.77 ratio with my setup, which means 5,300 RPM blower speed at 3,000 RPM. That will probably be under boosted, but it's a good starting point maybe. What do you guys think?

Although, maybe it'll be perfect.


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Old 08-08-2012, 08:08 PM
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Oops, I needed to multiply 2.6 * .833...
It's actually 2.17:1
I'm math challenged....
That will give me a 6,500 at 3,000 crank speed. That should be actually perfect.
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Consistant pessimist here again...
The blower moves 90 cu inches of air per rotation.
your engine displaces 180 cubic inches per rotation.(-some ve)
an approx 2:1 ratio will only get you to about atmospheric pressure. You can do that without a blower.
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At 3,000 RPM a 360 sucks 312.5 CFM at 100%ve I think.
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Right. That comes out to around 530 cu meters per hr. Thats my point. Your blower spun at that ratio would be no better than just removing the blower and turbo.
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I just need initial boost to light the turbo. By my calcs I will have that. Guess the proof will be in the numbers.


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