Someone sealed the axle ends with RTV and I can't get them off!
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I bought a special pair of pliers that has a V on one side. Opens the cone washer and they will come off the stud. If you have old pair of pliers you don't want you can try grinding one side to make it a cone washer removal tool. This is the tool I use to pull the tapered cones off axle studs works great.
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You aren't going to get them loose by tapping them with a small hammer, you need to smack them like you own them by using a sledge.
Smack then directly in the center of the hub, leave several nuts on the end of the studs to keep the axle from popping out.
I have pulled many Rockwell axles out of semi tractors and transit coaches with my 10# sledge hammer.
By hitting them on the side of the flange you take the chance of deforming it and ruining the sealing surface.
You need to slam them with a sledge and the shock will pop the cones loose, once loose if the cone wont move then wedge a small screwdriver into the split and it will loosen up on the stud.
It shouldn't take more than 1 or 2 blows of the sledge to loosen them.
Jim
Smack then directly in the center of the hub, leave several nuts on the end of the studs to keep the axle from popping out.
I have pulled many Rockwell axles out of semi tractors and transit coaches with my 10# sledge hammer.
By hitting them on the side of the flange you take the chance of deforming it and ruining the sealing surface.
You need to slam them with a sledge and the shock will pop the cones loose, once loose if the cone wont move then wedge a small screwdriver into the split and it will loosen up on the stud.
It shouldn't take more than 1 or 2 blows of the sledge to loosen them.
Jim
You aren't going to get them loose by tapping them with a small hammer, you need to smack them like you own them by using a sledge.
Smack then directly in the center of the hub, leave several nuts on the end of the studs to keep the axle from popping out.
I have pulled many Rockwell axles out of semi tractors and transit coaches with my 10# sledge hammer.
By hitting them on the side of the flange you take the chance of deforming it and ruining the sealing surface.
You need to slam them with a sledge and the shock will pop the cones loose, once loose if the cone wont move then wedge a small screwdriver into the split and it will loosen up on the stud.
It shouldn't take more than 1 or 2 blows of the sledge to loosen them.
Jim
Smack then directly in the center of the hub, leave several nuts on the end of the studs to keep the axle from popping out.
I have pulled many Rockwell axles out of semi tractors and transit coaches with my 10# sledge hammer.
By hitting them on the side of the flange you take the chance of deforming it and ruining the sealing surface.
You need to slam them with a sledge and the shock will pop the cones loose, once loose if the cone wont move then wedge a small screwdriver into the split and it will loosen up on the stud.
It shouldn't take more than 1 or 2 blows of the sledge to loosen them.
Jim
The cones are *NOT* copper, they're steel...unless Dodge got some of the super-expensive magnetic copper. In any case I found it much easier to tap with a 2 lb. ball peen right over the stud...tap, tap, tap until the cone moves just a bit then spread it with a screwdriver( a #2 flat blade ) and it came apart w/o issue.
On re-assembly, I spread a light coat of Hylomar on the steel gasket. No leaks yet.
cheers,
Douglas
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Hey guys, we're here to help, not argue over who's idea is better. I've gotten axles loose by hitting straight on and from the side although straight on is usually preferred.
Since I "assumed" that we were dealing with bolts instead of studs because that detail was omitted by the OP, I'll retract my suggestion of using a tap on the side of the cap. If you have a scrap piece of steel or a big nut you can place on the center of the cap to keep the hammer away from the studs, I'd go that way. If not, I'll endorse the chisel idea. If you chisel remember you may have a little deformation of the metal that may need dressing afterwards.
Since I "assumed" that we were dealing with bolts instead of studs because that detail was omitted by the OP, I'll retract my suggestion of using a tap on the side of the cap. If you have a scrap piece of steel or a big nut you can place on the center of the cap to keep the hammer away from the studs, I'd go that way. If not, I'll endorse the chisel idea. If you chisel remember you may have a little deformation of the metal that may need dressing afterwards.
Hey guys, we're here to help, not argue over who's idea is better. I've gotten axles loose by hitting straight on and from the side although straight on is usually preferred.
Since I "assumed" that we were dealing with bolts instead of studs because that detail was omitted by the OP, I'll retract my suggestion of using a tap on the side of the cap. If you have a scrap piece of steel or a big nut you can place on the center of the cap to keep the hammer away from the studs, I'd go that way. If not, I'll endorse the chisel idea. If you chisel remember you may have a little deformation of the metal that may need dressing afterwards.
Since I "assumed" that we were dealing with bolts instead of studs because that detail was omitted by the OP, I'll retract my suggestion of using a tap on the side of the cap. If you have a scrap piece of steel or a big nut you can place on the center of the cap to keep the hammer away from the studs, I'd go that way. If not, I'll endorse the chisel idea. If you chisel remember you may have a little deformation of the metal that may need dressing afterwards.

easy fix, just add 'what worked for me' ... settles things down pretty good...and LOVE when someone posts a different idea. we all just want the fix without damage, and a little education. no worries. DTR guys are the greatest!
considering we are all trying to get something fixed and I don't know where you are located, here in rusty, big hole roads new york, the 'pop' on the center of the axle with a ten pound maul worked for us as above posted. not like you can re use those cones, neighbor has an '88 and '91 that felt welded indeed. we use a pipe with the flat plate welded on, kind of a town use tool so it happens enough....yes, just a break free hit, not a whoopin'....
ol farmer and tow truck operator- we have to do almost all 'dirt fixes', would love to see better and have a lift for the machine taps to directly check out the action. hopefully, all of these posts help you and you are SAFE, and stress free at the end. post your result if you get the time, man.
Heidi
considering we are all trying to get something fixed and I don't know where you are located, here in rusty, big hole roads new york, the 'pop' on the center of the axle with a ten pound maul worked for us as above posted. not like you can re use those cones, neighbor has an '88 and '91 that felt welded indeed. we use a pipe with the flat plate welded on, kind of a town use tool so it happens enough....yes, just a break free hit, not a whoopin'....
ol farmer and tow truck operator- we have to do almost all 'dirt fixes', would love to see better and have a lift for the machine taps to directly check out the action. hopefully, all of these posts help you and you are SAFE, and stress free at the end. post your result if you get the time, man.
Heidi
easy fix, just add 'what worked for me' ... settles things down pretty good...and LOVE when someone posts a different idea. we all just want the fix without damage, and a little education. no worries. DTR guys are the greatest!
considering we are all trying to get something fixed and I don't know where you are located, here in rusty, big hole roads new york, the 'pop' on the center of the axle with a ten pound maul worked for us as above posted. not like you can re use those cones, neighbor has an '88 and '91 that felt welded indeed. we use a pipe with the flat plate welded on, kind of a town use tool so it happens enough....yes, just a break free hit, not a whoopin'....
ol farmer and tow truck operator- we have to do almost all 'dirt fixes', would love to see better and have a lift for the machine taps to directly check out the action. hopefully, all of these posts help you and you are SAFE, and stress free at the end. post your result if you get the time, man.
Heidi
considering we are all trying to get something fixed and I don't know where you are located, here in rusty, big hole roads new york, the 'pop' on the center of the axle with a ten pound maul worked for us as above posted. not like you can re use those cones, neighbor has an '88 and '91 that felt welded indeed. we use a pipe with the flat plate welded on, kind of a town use tool so it happens enough....yes, just a break free hit, not a whoopin'....
ol farmer and tow truck operator- we have to do almost all 'dirt fixes', would love to see better and have a lift for the machine taps to directly check out the action. hopefully, all of these posts help you and you are SAFE, and stress free at the end. post your result if you get the time, man.
Heidi
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