Okay, me again on the issue on propane. My question to you all that have the power drugs is this: knowing from experience and/or lessons learned, would you go with propane or water/meth or stay away from this stuff, period! Yeah, I know our trucks can be had of power thru other "free" methods as outlined on this great site, it just seems that these power drugs provide beneficial things like "cooler EGT's" and/or fuel being burnt at a higher % due to propane acting out as a catalyst for diesel. My father-in-law is a diesel mech. for Kenworth and he sees the insides of these big rig engines that are using water injection and the insides are spotless. So what gives? Why the delays on the install of these products? In the last week I have cruised this site from "in the beginning..." topics and I check out your sigs. Probably count on one hand the power drug users. Is it a cost issue? I mean, some of you guys are purchasing high dollar turbo assemblies, while a water/meth kit can be had for 1/2 the price! Please advise. Carmyne

 

Well you see, using drugs is thought of by many as "cheating". Like using NOS...


Most peole prefer to have everything ready to go with straight #2. Gives more bragging rights, doncha know...

 

what he said...tune to run hard every day on #2, then drugs are the icing on the cake with just the flip of a switch

 

Thanks for the replies, but not the answers I'm looking for, sorry. I'm kind of targeting the few out there that are using such power boosters to get more input. C'mon, I know you're out there...anyone? Carmyne

 

Give WannaDiesel a yell. He loves his Water/Meth mixer he makes.

Shaken, not stirred

 

Well, nothing bad has happened to my truck so far with the water/meth. I've only had it on for a few months and the system only runs when I'm playing around, so I don't have any long term perspective on it.

Why more people don't run it? I think fear of screwing something up is a big factor. It's also an additional complication on a simple truck, and the hassle and expense of getting methanol has something to do with it. And like Begle 1 said, some people are #2 only snobs. Power is power as far as I'm concerned.

Propane is spooky though. I can get propane and most of the parts to build a system for free - but there is no propane system on my truck. A system from a reputable company with stock timing and fueling is OK, but once you start cranking up the timing and fuel you're asking for trouble.

 

Ok is there a benefit to water/meth on a work truck such as mine???

 

My friend has a 1997 powerjoke. Right after he bought it he put on a powereshot 2000 propane kit. It gave him some decent power, but really helped fuel milage. About two months ago he installed a Snow performance water/meth kit, he had it in for two days and blew his head gasket. He was injecting too much too early. but the performance for those two days was sweet . As soon as he hit 20psi the truck took off and boost went past 35psi. I dont know what his boost went up to he only has a 35psi gauge. When the head gasket whent it dropped a pice into the #5 cylinder. So we pulled the motor which is a nice blue pearl now, and rebuilt it. He did bigger injectors and head studs while it was out. He got a bad set of injector so he put his stockers back in. He has not hooked the water/meth back up yet, but when he dose I'll post and let ya know how it's working

 

More power with lower EGT. Big rigs sometimes have straight water systems for better fuel economy, but I don't think you'd see much benefit at the fuel pump. It sounds like you have your turbo pretty well sorted out, so unless you're itching for more power I'm not sure it's a good business decision. If you were having EGT issues on long hills it would be another story...

 

Actually I am quite satisfied with the power it has, did not expect the increase that the exhaust housing gave it. I lucked out on the turbo housing, EGT's are good and boost is right where the electronics will work with it. Got about an honest 1 mile per gallon, depending on circumstances, more, but normal driving with heavy loads about a mile.

Before I do anything else to the engine it will be larger exhaust, I have seen what better breathing will do for it. I do have concern if I get into higher elevation, not sure what the EGT's will do. I have gotten it up to 1250 but that was purposely abusing the system to see what it would do. I also have an idea that my IAT is a little screwey. Now and then it sets a low voltage code on the pressure sensor also. So new sensors are in order or at least the new ones that I had in the other motor.


To answer your question, now it is all about economy, I am afraid to add much more on the drive train, you would be surprised at the hill climbing torque the engine is producing.