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.....Basic moral values, like "Love your neighbor as you love yourself?" This morning I borrowed a tractor and mowed lawns for the old ladies who live on either side of me. What did YOU do for your neighbor today? And I go to church every Sunday, sing in the choir, and work in the kitchen. Not that that makes me a Christian, the fact that I look around to see what Jesus would be doing and try to get involved in it is what makes me a follower of Christ.
Gender is between your ears, sex is between your legs. You should thank God that yours match.
Gender is between your ears, sex is between your legs. You should thank God that yours match.
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I posted too soon and had to back to edit, we are not under the old covenant anymore, that was a google search, I wouldn't have included that.
There are other valid points in there tho..
. 9And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
10His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. 11But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. 12For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
In context it appears that Jesus is talking about being married or not married.
There are other valid points in there tho..
. 9And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
10His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. 11But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. 12For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
In context it appears that Jesus is talking about being married or not married.
I don't need to defend my relationship with God to you. That is between me and God.
Jesus said that His followers would be known by their fruits. Lots of fruits in my life - in more ways than one!
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Bible's use of the word "eunuch" refers strictly to men incapable of sexual intercourse or reproduction, through either birth defect or castration. I think you have gone beyond that...
Anyways.
Here is my point, between you and God, just like you said. That is all.
I have never had a problem with Wanna, and have always gotten along just great with him. I do not agree at all with his choice, but I hope that I will still be able to treat him politely as God's word says we should. My main question with this is how can you reconcile Christianity with transgenderism? Your gender is not a "mistake of nature" and you are not "your own god."
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. - 1 Corinthians 6, 19-20
Are you really glorifying God in your body and spirit with this? I hope you can honestly examine your heart and motives in the light of God's word.
Anyways.
Here is my point, between you and God, just like you said. That is all.
I have never had a problem with Wanna, and have always gotten along just great with him. I do not agree at all with his choice, but I hope that I will still be able to treat him politely as God's word says we should. My main question with this is how can you reconcile Christianity with transgenderism? Your gender is not a "mistake of nature" and you are not "your own god."
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. - 1 Corinthians 6, 19-20
Are you really glorifying God in your body and spirit with this? I hope you can honestly examine your heart and motives in the light of God's word.
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Yup, I knew from the second I read the first post that it would come to this eventually. Blinded by religion... kind of sad.
Faith, I know I don't get on here very much (I don't have a first gen anymore) but you've been a huge help to me and thousands of others in the past. My 1993 was my first diesel, so a lot of basic diesel knowledge comes from this site and many of your posts/PM's. Thanks for all the help over the years.
As for some of the naysayers in this thread, don't listen to 'em. Do what makes you happy. It doesn't affect them at all so they shouldn't be getting bent out of shape about it.
Faith, I know I don't get on here very much (I don't have a first gen anymore) but you've been a huge help to me and thousands of others in the past. My 1993 was my first diesel, so a lot of basic diesel knowledge comes from this site and many of your posts/PM's. Thanks for all the help over the years.
As for some of the naysayers in this thread, don't listen to 'em. Do what makes you happy. It doesn't affect them at all so they shouldn't be getting bent out of shape about it.
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Wanna,
I have read MANY of your posts on a few different forums, found them helpful and have learned a bunch thanks to you. I think that no ones opinion matters in this except yours and I will support you in anyway I can.
I also can fully understand why you did it this way, in a forum instead of just showing up to an event.
I am honestly and happily surprised by the responses in this thread, as much as I hate to say it I would have thought you would have been ridiculed by most and excepted by a few. The few who have ridiculed you are narrow minded and need to look past their beliefs and opinions and see you for who you are a very helpful, honest and good person.
Not that it matters to anyone just my .02
I have read MANY of your posts on a few different forums, found them helpful and have learned a bunch thanks to you. I think that no ones opinion matters in this except yours and I will support you in anyway I can.
I also can fully understand why you did it this way, in a forum instead of just showing up to an event.
I am honestly and happily surprised by the responses in this thread, as much as I hate to say it I would have thought you would have been ridiculed by most and excepted by a few. The few who have ridiculed you are narrow minded and need to look past their beliefs and opinions and see you for who you are a very helpful, honest and good person.
Not that it matters to anyone just my .02
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wow, takes some real and i mean real guts to come on here and say what you are about to do. i hope you find peace of mind , for me i will continue enjoying your post. as for right or wrong , not for me to judge for i am not free of sin. wisdom comes with age or i should say can come with age and even though i don't have any idea of how or why about this topic i just gotta say wow. and i support you.
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wow, takes some real and i mean real guts to come on here and say what you are about to do. i hope you find peace of mind , for me i will continue enjoying your post. as for right or wrong , not for me to judge for i am not free of sin. wisdom comes with age or i should say can come with age and even though i don't have any idea of how or why about this topic i just gotta say wow. and i support you.
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I have read the entire thread.
Then questioning why it was here is very redundant. It's been answered several times already.
Originally Posted by fatt View Post
I have read the entire thread.
Then questioning why it was here is very redundant. It's been answered several times already.
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If it be my last post on this thread or here on DTR, fine. I will let my voice be heard.
It has been a long policy here about religion. I am a Christian hard core. When a thread starts to get heated, it gets moved or locked. Everyone now gets the picture.
Wana, live your words. The do unto others as would have them do to you. I find it despicable that as an Administrator, you would seek out another forum that this was discussed, quite rudely I will agree, create a username, and attack them in a way that I have NEVER seen you do before.
Is it the change or the real you that did that?
It has been a long policy here about religion. I am a Christian hard core. When a thread starts to get heated, it gets moved or locked. Everyone now gets the picture.
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Is it the change or the real you that did that?