Ok, well... have I answered your question? Not everyone reads the same.


Holy crap, Rick... be nice!!!

 

I just checked back though the last three days of 1st gen threads, and this is the only one I see.

Maybe it just seems like that because this one disturbs you so much?

 

I never questioned why it's here.

 

Never said you did. You just recognized the direction it was headed.

 

Confusion is ok here. Keep the discussion coming.

 

this doesnt even compare to the amount of disturbed things i have witnessed in the short 19 years ive been here than i can stand to admit, and truthfully im not "disturbed" by this conversation at all because its a personal decision that dave made on his own, im saying the top rated thread right now on dtr and facebook is this, we are all known here and we as adults talk diesels here, facebook would be appropriate for this conversation if dave or faith wants to tell his personal friends about his personal life. dodge pickups with cummins engines are or at least were the intended coverstasions for DIESEL TRUCK RESOURCE, not the former

dave your a cool person that knows more about first gens than i could find time to know, and i respect that, but lets talk diesels already

 

So why are you contributing to the popularity by posting here? If people stop posting, the thread drops down off the front page.

I kinda wish you would let it go, I didn't do this to cause a ruckus.

And it's Faith or Wanna, show some respect please.

 

Then pick another thread, this one isn't what you're looking for.

 

amen, i stated my opinion, now lets talk first gens

 

So... how about those fuel screws? Wish my truck was that easy to turn up...

 

To be honest you posted this on a public forum.... So something as un-natural as a sexuality change will be criticized heavily among most.... There are 50 fold the amount not posting because they fear of being banned or the comment is simply deleted.

Dont take this the wrong way but you were born a MAN and I truly feel sorry for you but you have been fed a line of BS from whatever research you have done or studied to come to this conclusion.

I think ALOT more would respect the fact if you lived as you were born and not use todays vastly dangerous technology to change that.

Just my opinion. Good luck on TRULY finding yourself. Life is not that complicated, you just need to simplify your mind..... and get back to basic moral values.

And to be scientific, your a man simply from the fact you have the ability to produce sperm and not an EGG. Even science teaches you that if your an atheist. You just need to clear your mind.... Maybe pray about it being your obviously involved in church.. I highly doubt GOD promotes a sex change though. Its one thing for people in the "Internet" world to accept you but another in the REAL world especially at Church.

 

I've been trying to leave this thread alone and let people say their piece, but I had a great day and I'm feeling frisky. There was no research needed, I knew in my heart who I was long before I could read. I'm grateful to have been born in an era when medical technology can make me more comfortable.
My life is very simple now, I'm a woman.

Basic moral values, like "Love your neighbor as you love yourself?" This morning I borrowed a tractor and mowed lawns for the old ladies who live on either side of me. What did YOU do for your neighbor today? And I go to church every Sunday, sing in the choir, and work in the kitchen. Not that that makes me a Christian, the fact that I look around to see what Jesus would be doing and try to get involved in it is what makes me a follower of Christ.

Gender is between your ears, sex is between your legs. You should thank God that yours match.

I'm not picking on you in particular, just trying to educate and I'm using you as an example.

 

Question: "What does the Bible say about transsexualism / transgenderism? Is gender identity disorder / gender dysphoria the result of sin?"

Answer: Transsexualism, also known as transgenderism, Gender Identity Disorder (GID), or gender dysphoria, is a desire to change one’s sex or to fulfill the role of the opposite gender. Transsexuals / transgenders usually describe themselves as “trapped” in a body that does not match their gender. They will probably practice transvestism / transvestitism and may also seek hormone therapy and/or surgery to bring their bodies into conformity with their perceived gender.

The Bible has plenty to say about human sexuality. Most basic to our understanding of sex is that God created two (and only two) genders: “male and female He created them” (Genesis 1:27). All the modern-day speculation about numerous genders—or even a gender “continuum” with unlimited genders—is unbiblical.

In Psalm 139, we learn that God fashions each one of us. “For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made. . . . My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place. . . . your eyes saw my unformed body” (verses 13-16). God’s creation of each individual must surely include His designation of gender/sex. His wonderful work leaves no room for mistakes; no one is born with the “wrong body.”

After the fall of man, it did not take long for gender issues to become confused. In Abraham’s day, homosexuality was widespread in some cities (Genesis 19:1-7; Jude 7). The Bible is unmistakably clear that homosexuality is a sinful perversion of God’s gift of sexuality (Romans 1:18-32; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10).

In the Law, transvestism / transvestitism was specifically forbidden: “A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this” (Deuteronomy 22:5).

Another possible reference to transsexualism is 1 Corinthians 6:9, where “male prostitutes” is listed as a separate category from “homosexual offenders.” The King James Version uses the word “effeminate” here; that is to say, the “male prostitutes” might be transsexual men who act as women.

The Bible calls all such gender distortion sin. Transgenderism is not genetically based, and it is not simply a psychological disorder; it is rebellion against God’s plan. But following this realization is good news: sin can be forgiven and lives can be changed through faith in Christ. The Corinthian believers are an example of such a change: “And [homosexuals] is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God” (1 Corinthians 6:11). There is hope for any sinner, transsexuals, transgenders, and transvestites included, because of God’s forgiveness available in Jesus Christ.



I have never had a problem with Wanna, and have always gotten along just great with him. I do not agree at all with his choice, but I hope that I will still be able to treat him politely as God's word says we should. My main question with this is how can you reconcile Christianity with transgenderism? Your gender is not a "mistake of nature" and you are not "your own god."

What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. - 1 Corinthians 6, 19-20

Are you really glorifying God in your body and spirit with this? I hope you can honestly examine your heart and motives in the light of God's word.

 

I'm honored that you cared enough about my soul to copy and paste that. Thanks.

So are you under the old covenant or the new covenant? Start stitching tassels on the corners of your garments and get rid of anything with blended fibers.

Tell me what Jesus had to say about gender or orientation. He is the One I follow.

Matthew 19:12
For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

Toldja I was feeling frisky!

 

I posted too soon and had to back to edit, we are not under the old covenant anymore, that was a google search, I wouldn't have included that.

There are other valid points in there tho..

. 9And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

10His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. 11But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. 12For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

In context it appears that Jesus is talking about being married or not married.