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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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Injector washers

Gonnna go out and put a set of 190's in the truck today, just to see what it does. Maybe get a little better mileage and not smoke any I hope. Anyway, I don't have new washers for them. Anybody re-use theirs? Where have you purchased them from? I'd kinda like to pick up a new set, but are they a Cummins/Dodge part only or are they available at a local parts store? Gonna go out and start on adjusting the valves right now and pull a bunch of timing out of it, will check in here later, thanks a bunch,

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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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They say your not supposed to, but I've done it, many times without them leaking. I would try to avoid going to dodge for them. A cummins dealer might have them in stock and any good fuel injection place should have them too.
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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Ok, next question, just popped the POD's out and checked the washer thickness...around .050". Looked at the stock washers and were around .090". Some say they run as thin as .020" for the pod's. Guess I'm gonna call around here and see if there's any injection shops around here. All help is welcome, thanks,

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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 03:42 PM
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Here comes another one: Did some calculations and since the tips on the pod's are around .850, subtract .050 for the washer and got .800 sticking in the hole. On the stockers, measure around .910, subtract .090 for the washer and get .820 sticking in. Now, if i put the .050 washer on the 190's which measure out about the same as stock, .910-.050=.860 sticking in the hole. Does anybody know how much room there is in there? I'd like to go with my .050 ones, but don't wanna be in too far. Thanks
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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Many, many owners have run .020 washers with no issues. I also know of a few guys that didn't know you had to use washers, and they had no issues of piston slap. You want that size (.020) with POD's, to get the spray into the piston bowl more efficiently. I'm not sure about 190's. Any Bosch shop, diesel shop, Scheid's, PDR, can get you the washers.
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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Here comes another one: Did some calculations and since the tips on the pod's are around .850, subtract .050 for the washer and got .800 sticking in the hole. On the stockers, measure around .910, subtract .090 for the washer and get .820 sticking in. Now, if i put the .050 washer on the 190's which measure out about the same as stock, .910-.050=.860 sticking in the hole. Does anybody know how much room there is in there? I'd like to go with my .050 ones, but don't wanna be in too far. Thanks
you gona sell those pods
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 06:45 PM
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Well, pod's remain in the truck. Got to looking at new injectors and found out they don't fit. Gotta find the dude I bought 'em off of and figure out what they're really for. I think next step will be getting .020 washers for the pod's and seeing what happens. I did get the valves adjusted today so at least I accomplished something.
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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On occasion and, without realizing it 190's have been put into an early model 1st gen...that would be 89-91.5 model years...the thing is those trucks came with larger injectors in them to start with..
What a person needs to do us a different injector 'body' for those model years.... maybe you got a set of 190's that went into an early model and the bodies are too big for our model years (91.5 - 93)....just a thought....

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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bushy
On occasion and, without realizing it 190's have been put into an early model 1st gen...that would be 89-91.5 model years...the thing is those trucks came with larger injectors in them to start with..
What a person needs to do us a different injector 'body' for those model years.... maybe you got a set of 190's that went into an early model and the bodies are too big for our model years (91.5 - 93)....just a thought....

pb....

Could very well be. Is there an easy way to tell?
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