Heater core replacement
#16
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I have not had a heater in my truck for about 4 years now, I bought a new core 4 years ago after ordering many cores and rejecting them for sloppy soldering on all of them, the girl at Pep Boys was ordering them 2 at a time, these were as bad as when I bought my evaporator.
The only thing stopping me from replacing it is I will have the discharge my AC to pull the air box.
I have my own recovery unit but I never have the time.
Is the rumor true that we can get replacement blend door seals?
The way I have survived our freezing winter's is I have installed my little 1500-watt electric ceramic heater on the passenger floor, it is powered through my 3000-watt inverter installed in the back.
Within about 2 minuets the cab is toasty warm and if you don't turn it down it will run you out of the cab.
I have looked at the Evans waterless coolant but have not had any serious cooling system problems.
https://www.evanscoolant.com
I have a coolant filter and have removed a lot of casting sand from the block already.
Jim
The only thing stopping me from replacing it is I will have the discharge my AC to pull the air box.
I have my own recovery unit but I never have the time.
Is the rumor true that we can get replacement blend door seals?
The way I have survived our freezing winter's is I have installed my little 1500-watt electric ceramic heater on the passenger floor, it is powered through my 3000-watt inverter installed in the back.
Within about 2 minuets the cab is toasty warm and if you don't turn it down it will run you out of the cab.
I have looked at the Evans waterless coolant but have not had any serious cooling system problems.
https://www.evanscoolant.com
I have a coolant filter and have removed a lot of casting sand from the block already.
Jim
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mhuppertz (09-05-2018)
#17
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Ok guys, this is from Evan's waterless coolant site: Most engine coolants/antifreezes are a 50/50 mix of ethylene glycol and water. Waterless coolant is a glycol-based fluid that is ready to use, no water required.
The non-50/50 antifreeze may have a little water in it, but through many years of not adding any water to the non-50/50 antifreeze, I think that the proof is in my pudding and is plenty good enough. I suspect that the Evans stuff is just ethylene glycol without water in it. I also suspect that the 50 bucks for the high performance stuff is more or less just Prestone custom made without the water added and they probably pay a buck or less per gallon, good business, if you can find it. My argument has never been to pay 50 buck a gallon,it is to just not put any water in the concentrated antifreeze. It really does work, rant over, carry on...Mark
The non-50/50 antifreeze may have a little water in it, but through many years of not adding any water to the non-50/50 antifreeze, I think that the proof is in my pudding and is plenty good enough. I suspect that the Evans stuff is just ethylene glycol without water in it. I also suspect that the 50 bucks for the high performance stuff is more or less just Prestone custom made without the water added and they probably pay a buck or less per gallon, good business, if you can find it. My argument has never been to pay 50 buck a gallon,it is to just not put any water in the concentrated antifreeze. It really does work, rant over, carry on...Mark
#18
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I have not had a heater in my truck for about 4 years now, I bought a new core 4 years ago after ordering many cores and rejecting them for sloppy soldering on all of them, the girl at Pep Boys was ordering them 2 at a time, these were as bad as when I bought my evaporator.
The only thing stopping me from replacing it is I will have the discharge my AC to pull the air box.
I have my own recovery unit but I never have the time.
Is the rumor true that we can get replacement blend door seals?
The way I have survived our freezing winter's is I have installed my little 1500-watt electric ceramic heater on the passenger floor, it is powered through my 3000-watt inverter installed in the back.
Within about 2 minuets the cab is toasty warm and if you don't turn it down it will run you out of the cab.
I have looked at the Evans waterless coolant but have not had any serious cooling system problems.
https://www.evanscoolant.com
I have a coolant filter and have removed a lot of casting sand from the block already.
Jim
The only thing stopping me from replacing it is I will have the discharge my AC to pull the air box.
I have my own recovery unit but I never have the time.
Is the rumor true that we can get replacement blend door seals?
The way I have survived our freezing winter's is I have installed my little 1500-watt electric ceramic heater on the passenger floor, it is powered through my 3000-watt inverter installed in the back.
Within about 2 minuets the cab is toasty warm and if you don't turn it down it will run you out of the cab.
I have looked at the Evans waterless coolant but have not had any serious cooling system problems.
https://www.evanscoolant.com
I have a coolant filter and have removed a lot of casting sand from the block already.
Jim
I waited two years to do mine, was using a little Horrible Freight 12v heater to keep the windshield clear but it wasn't enough to keep me warm at all, When the A/C system discharged I figured it was as good a time as ever to do it.
The worst part is the vacuum grommet that is in the firewall. I broke it, had to switch to the alternative ports, Better just to cut the lines and splice them going back in.
Thanks Jim,
Mark
#19
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Ok guys, this is from Evan's waterless coolant site: Most engine coolants/antifreezes are a 50/50 mix of ethylene glycol and water. Waterless coolant is a glycol-based fluid that is ready to use, no water required.
The non-50/50 antifreeze may have a little water in it, but through many years of not adding any water to the non-50/50 antifreeze, I think that the proof is in my pudding and is plenty good enough. I suspect that the Evans stuff is just ethylene glycol without water in it. I also suspect that the 50 bucks for the high performance stuff is more or less just Prestone custom made without the water added and they probably pay a buck or less per gallon, good business, if you can find it. My argument has never been to pay 50 buck a gallon,it is to just not put any water in the concentrated antifreeze. It really does work, rant over, carry on...Mark
The non-50/50 antifreeze may have a little water in it, but through many years of not adding any water to the non-50/50 antifreeze, I think that the proof is in my pudding and is plenty good enough. I suspect that the Evans stuff is just ethylene glycol without water in it. I also suspect that the 50 bucks for the high performance stuff is more or less just Prestone custom made without the water added and they probably pay a buck or less per gallon, good business, if you can find it. My argument has never been to pay 50 buck a gallon,it is to just not put any water in the concentrated antifreeze. It really does work, rant over, carry on...Mark
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maybe368 (09-05-2018)
#21
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I don't think that it matters, Just don't add water to whatever concentrate that you buy. Their site just says glycol based. Buy enough propylene glycol concentrate, don't add water to it, problem solved. It is an old business tactic IMO, make people believe that the only way to do something,is with their product. There are several members on this sight that do the same as me, some for more that a year or two and I have not heard a single complaint. I don't blame them for not posting about it,, but I can take the heat (no pun intended)...Mark
#22
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I don't think that it matters, Just don't add water to whatever concentrate that you buy. Their site just says glycol based. Buy enough propylene glycol concentrate, don't add water to it, problem solved. It is an old business tactic IMO, make people believe that the only way to do something,is with their product. There are several members on this sight that do the same as me, some for more that a year or two and I have not heard a single complaint. I don't blame them for not posting about it,, but I can take the heat (no pun intended)...Mark
In a month or two up here I will take all the free heat I can get...Haha
I filled [my '91.0 W-250] Poncho's system up last winter when I pulled the oil cooler from the block and re-did a bunch of stuff.
I added the straight antifreeze with no water added. It ran great all summer for me.
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maybe368 (09-05-2018)
#23
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Thanks Oliver, you are a respected voice around here and especially since you live in a very cold climate, it helps to dispel the "but what if it freezes argument". I have no authority about that, living in Phoenix and all. What did we hit in our experiment, -25 degrees F., IIRC? That goes a long way in dispelling that argument. I should have beat ole' Evans by taking this to market before them.O'well you snooze you lose...Mark
#24
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Thanks Mark.
I want to say I got to test the same pure anti freeze I filled my system with, in a half full jug outside in -20F if not -25F last winter.
Poncho gets to spend most of the winter in the heated shop but I wanted to test out the fluid I used.
In the morning I would go shake the jug and peer inside looking for any signs of freezing or getting slushy, then note the temp. outside at that time.
I also made sure that it had been colder that night then when I tested in that morning.
I want to say I got to test the same pure anti freeze I filled my system with, in a half full jug outside in -20F if not -25F last winter.
Poncho gets to spend most of the winter in the heated shop but I wanted to test out the fluid I used.
In the morning I would go shake the jug and peer inside looking for any signs of freezing or getting slushy, then note the temp. outside at that time.
I also made sure that it had been colder that night then when I tested in that morning.
#25
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My poor old truck is outside all winter (and summer) and we usually have a week in January where it never gets above freezing.
Pure ethylene glycol freezes at about −12 °C (10.4 °F) but, when mixed with water, the mixture freezes at a lower temperature. For example, a mixture of 60% ethylene glycol and 40% water freezes at −45 °C (−49 °F),
so I guess I need to keep using the premix in the winter.
Pure ethylene glycol freezes at about −12 °C (10.4 °F) but, when mixed with water, the mixture freezes at a lower temperature. For example, a mixture of 60% ethylene glycol and 40% water freezes at −45 °C (−49 °F),
so I guess I need to keep using the premix in the winter.
#26
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My poor old truck is outside all winter (and summer) and we usually have a week in January where it never gets above freezing.
Pure ethylene glycol freezes at about −12 °C (10.4 °F) but, when mixed with water, the mixture freezes at a lower temperature. For example, a mixture of 60% ethylene glycol and 40% water freezes at −45 °C (−49 °F),
so I guess I need to keep using the premix in the winter.
Pure ethylene glycol freezes at about −12 °C (10.4 °F) but, when mixed with water, the mixture freezes at a lower temperature. For example, a mixture of 60% ethylene glycol and 40% water freezes at −45 °C (−49 °F),
so I guess I need to keep using the premix in the winter.
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...16652/page365/
and continue through February you will see that Oliver's experiment went through that time and temps hit -25 or so without a hint of even gelling. I don't know of any better test than that...Mark
#28
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I don't think that it matters, Just don't add water to whatever concentrate that you buy. Their site just says glycol based. Buy enough propylene glycol concentrate, don't add water to it, problem solved. It is an old business tactic IMO, make people believe that the only way to do something,is with their product. There are several members on this sight that do the same as me, some for more that a year or two and I have not heard a single complaint. I don't blame them for not posting about it,, but I can take the heat (no pun intended)...Mark
Edwin
#29
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Yeah my jug of Diesel 911 with freeze but the jug of pure antifreeze did not.
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maybe368 (09-05-2018)
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And even if it had frozen it would not expand and do damage, like water does. FWIW, I googled every element that expands when frozen and they are: Water, bismuth, silicone, germanium, antimony, plutonium, and chemical compounds that form spacious crystal lattices with tetrahedral coordination (whatever that is). So, assuming that it would gel, before it freezes, just a slight temperature rise would quickly thaw it and no damage will have been done...Mark