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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 12:21 PM
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whats the torque for the head bolts
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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From 1991 FSM Step1 29 ft/lbs, Step2 62 ft/lbs, Step3 93 ft/lbs
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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That's odd, the '93 FSM says ~





Pages: 9-115 & 9-116 (5.9L (Diesel) Engine)
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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91 manual is nonintercooled, slightly different head (9mm) and a weaker HG from what Ive heard...Im not sure if they had an FSM for IC 91s.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BC847
That's odd, the '93 FSM says ~Pages: 9-115 & 9-116 (5.9L (Diesel) Engine)
Sorry for the hijack, but where is the best place to get an FSM?
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mhuppertz
Sorry for the hijack, but where is the best place to get an FSM?
Mark
http://www.genosgarage.com/prodinfo....r=DFSM93_PRINT

So what year is SMOKE' EM's truck?


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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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Thanks, ordered it (FINALLY!).
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by rbrettctd
91 manual is nonintercooled, slightly different head (9mm) and a weaker HG from what Ive heard...Im not sure if they had an FSM for IC 91s.
The reason it in 1991 the certification changed on the engine and they changed the head bolts to a different design. 1991 and prior bolts SHOULD NOT be used in 1991 and later engines, but 1991 and later bolts can be used in the older engines.

The old bolts are a straight torque style one, the newer one is a torque plus 90*. Look at the head of the bolt and you will see T<90 on the newer ones, earlier ones do not have this and should not be torque that way either.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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IIRC he has a 92 or 93 , which would be the specs BC847 gave
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 08:30 PM
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it is a 93
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JD730
The reason it in 1991 the certification changed on the engine and they changed the head bolts to a different design. 1991 and prior bolts SHOULD NOT be used in 1991 and later engines, but 1991 and later bolts can be used in the older engines.

The old bolts are a straight torque style one, the newer one is a torque plus 90*. Look at the head of the bolt and you will see T<90 on the newer ones, earlier ones do not have this and should not be torque that way either.
Ah Ha! I read something recently concerning the bolts and didn't know the connection. Thanks Mike.
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