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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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H&R seizure.

We got to hook today. Didn't get too far, the 14mm h&r seized. Had been running fine all day. Trying to leave at 3700 rpm did it in though. Just didn't feel like it was fueling right.

Not sure why it seized. I bought it from a member on here(not KTA), it appeared to be brand new. We did have a issue with the control collar, but got that worked out. It ran awesome for 200 miles. Should have stayed on the street.

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Here's what we found inside:

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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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bummer!!! sorry to hear that curt. are you going to look for another 14mm head and rotor from kta this time? what happened when it seized? did it die immediately or did it sound like a powerjoke when it disintegrated?
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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Well that sucks.

What are the plans now
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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The plan is, we don't have one. Probably throw a 12mm pump back on it so it runs. There are 2 hooks left this year. Never got to run the 12mm with the timing jumped up, might try that if there is time.

It just died. Sounded like one big bark when the pressure came back out the intake. Several people said I blew a boot, no such luck. When I clutched it, the motor was still spinning with NO fuel, that sounded weird.

I was hoping to shred the HG or D70 before the new parts though.
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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This is kind of unrelated to you but, I read how the 14mm versions are not the most reliable for DD use, how they need a large constant flow of fuel to keep cool, blah, blah ... 12 mm is stock... so why not compromise and make a 13 mm version?
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 10:57 PM
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That sucks Curt. Sounds like a stock pump for now, then before next season, I'd go for the inline pump.
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 12:22 AM
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pppp pump it
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 07:28 AM
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Aw man, it makes me feel a little sick just looking at all that carnage. I think my 14 mm H&R is gonna spend some more time on the shelf.
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 09:28 AM
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arent the heads only $250 or so (idk about the cam plate). I thought I saw them on an industrial site...they were selling them for KTA's not for people jackin up their B series.
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 09:35 AM
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Aw man, it makes me feel a little sick just looking at all that carnage. I think my 14 mm H&R is gonna spend some more time on the shelf.
No, don't hesitate to put it on. It will be fine on the street. Plus it will really wake it up. Do it.

I just wish we had driven it further, but we wanted to save it for the track.

We probably will end up p-pumping it at some point. I really don't want to ditch the VE just yet, but not sure how much more $ to stick in one.
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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I guess my question was dumb
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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sorry to hear the bad news. I was really looking forward to seeing what the truck would do with it.
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 08:33 PM
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O man that sucks....i know how you feel tho. If you wanna be extremely competitive ppump is the only way to go.
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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That sucks. Heard they don't like RPM...guess there is the proof. For high RPM use I guess they have to have a retainer and a boost referenced regulator running like 60 psi.
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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 07:02 AM
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The Head it's not a dumb question. You may get some crazy answers. At this point no one is making a 13mm H&R. I've thought of the same thing. The young guy durajunkkiller is running a 14mm with alot of street miles on it with no adverse problems yet. My 14mm H&R is like wannadiesels on the shelf but mine is assembled and ready to go. For some reason they never break up on the shelf. If a 12mm is great and a 14mm is iffy why not do a 13mm. Good luck getting a good answer.
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