Okay to start off with I was talking to a guy who owns a 1st gen 1989 D250 to be precise and he has done a lot of work to it 450 hp and a fully built race tranny and all the goodies. So he says the truck runs 11's in the quarter mile and can do 270 kilometers on the hi-way the truck has traction bars and does have 18's with street rubber is this plausable or is he telling stories just wondering thanks all and I know I have asked this before but whats the best ball joint out there for my rig and as well i was at napa yesterday and they told me 220$*(all four of them) for their really good ones which is napa chassie and the spicer ones which I was quoted from a mechanic are around 400$ for all four and the same mechanic quoted me 1000$ for a front brake caliper replacement and/or fix is this too much? thanks again

 

I'm gona guess it takes more than 450 hp to run 11's in the 1/4.

Most trucks with 400-450 hp run somewhere in the 13 sec range.


but thats just me thinkin

 

That was my thought I was hoping a experienced racer might chime in on this like hard numbers kinda thing nice looking rig btw

 

BC847 has somewhere around 450hp I think, and he runs pretty consistent high 12's IIRC.

 

I couldn't tell you about the ball joints, but I'd believe that price for the Dana/Spicer stuff. Personally, I'd go with Moog if they make the ball joints. And $1000 for calipers? They'd better be made of titanium and coated in gold for that price!

 

Thats what some one else was telling me a load of bs like thats what you'd pay for all new calipers all around and pads as well lol and why do you prefer moog?

 

I think they make a quality product. The things I've gotten from them have been well machined and fit like it was OEM.
Was that price just for the calipers, or was it to put them on with new pads etc too? Even so, that's awful high...

 

he said it may cost up to a grand to fix it and what happend was the caliper has two clips that keep it in place and one is busted so the caliper is rubbing on the pad and you can hear it when your not pressing on the brakes

 

the pad rides inside the caliper. that does not make any sence to me, they are going to be in contact with eachother all of the time. what does it sound like??

 

a grinding noise like its hitting something and bouncing up and down every little bit until you depress the brakes

 

Yep, clip is broken and the caliper rattles until you hit the brakes.
Reman calipers will have new clips and solve the problem.
Look in the sticky for install help (lubing the slides).

 

That's quick.

I imagine it's a standard-cab. Is he still running the VE injection pump? How much nitrous? Slicks? Automatic?

 

I priced up a complete brake hardware overhaul for my front end, (D350) from Rockauto a couple months ago, everything but the calipers. I was pricing middle of the road, not the cheapest or most expensive price-wise, mainly Raybestos stuff. Would/will run me about $400 all up, plus shipping.

 

Depending on how much the truck wieghs its possible, calculator says 11.9@5000lbs= 486hp. So with less weight or a lil bit of water or nitrous it could happen.

 

I'm as close to a full time competitor as one can get and still have a full time job. I literally watch thousands of diesels make runs (and hooks) each year at events and at Friday night drags.

Based on my experience, 450 rwhp will get most of our 1st gen trucks in the high 12's (or mid 12's if you can cut a good 60'...which would be sub 1.7) as many of our trucks are 4x4, with 33's and a lot of crap bolted on like toolboxes, big bumpers, etc. Also, our aerodynamics are terrible. These trucks are shaped like a brick and the 4x4 models sit VERY tall for a stock truck, which kills you on the big end.

You mentioned that the truck was 2wd, though, so that changes things. His truck can be stripped down to a car-like race weight. I have seen a stripped down 1st gen weigh in at WAY under 5000 lbs.

You also mentioned that he had a built race tranny. In our world, that means a full billet switchable lockup trans that can bang the gears so hard your CD player skips. This helps immensely.

To make that run even possible with a 2wd, though, fat VHT's slicks and a locker are a must. It won't happen on street tires, even drag radials.

With all of this (plus a driver than can kill the tree), an 11 second run isn't completely impossible IMO.