Which would you guys say is a better a denny T or a bully dog? This is on a slightly turned up pump, stock turbo, and slightly bigger injectors. I want more power but not more smoke. Atleast not a lot of smoke

 

ive heard that the bully dog groves over time. just what i heard, may not be true. someone else will know for sure

 

The Youtube video is an M3 compared to a stock pin. I guess my question is how much deeper do the aftermarket fuel pins go compared to how much you can get with a heavily ground stock pin?

 

you will never get the same amount of performance out of a ground pin!!!
its well worth the 100$

 

The stock fuel cone can be ground to allow just as much fueling.

 

Fatt hit it on the nose. But no more edit wars over this. If you guys want to buy the pins then do it, they are a great product and they aren't that bad of a price.

I've heard the same about bullydog so I wouldn't go that route.

 

Both very true, but people don't seem to want to accept the fact that you can grind the stocker to fuel just as much. There are people who have known this for a long time. But the aftermarket ones are good products at good price like 93flatbed said.

 

c'mon grinding a stock pin is ghetto.

 

That's funny!

 

I'm gonna go with redneck....or I'm just cheap, cause that's my plan...

 

Just a question about grinding your own pin . Wouldn't the hardness come out of a Stock pin if you grind the profile or are these pins hardened all the way through ? plus the grinder causes Tad bit of heat which will take the temper out of the metal wont it ?

 

Ouch, been called lots of stuff in my life. Never that though! So much I would like to say about that, but like I said, we won't start a edit war over this again.
(this is me taking the high road)>I hope that you are happy with your pin/cone.

 

i picked up 22 hp going from a severly ground stocker to an aftermarket pin! same day same dyno

 

I picked up a substantial gain with going from a ground stock pin to an after-market. These days, I run a custom pin from M&H.

 

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