Just curious how often you other Frantz filter users change the TP and top it off AND how often do you go for a full oil change (and your results).

I am guessing that I will be changing TP once a month and doing a full change once a year.
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When I saw this product at the fair about 40 years ago, I wondered how the little bits of cellulose that come off the TP got filtered out. It seems like these bits wouldn't be good on bearings or rings.

Edwin

 

My friend always gives me "reasons why the Frantz shouldn't work", including the "little bits" theory. I tell him - "It works JUST like it says". He has his skepticism, I have a working filter. You have been missing out for 40 years. Sometimes ya just gotta take the leap...
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Guess i`ll show my age , first time i saw them was at eastren Michigan Fair, they were selling them to be used on tractors or cars. that was in early 50s.
never have tried one but if they have been around that long must work, my only question is( when i use OEM oil filter, which i hate to pay for my oil pressure is better than with aftermarket filters) so this one has so much more filtration what happens to your oil pressure?
Claude

 

It's a bypass filter and it runs at a lower rate than a regular filter. It does not replace your filter, it is an additional filter run off of a separate line and there is a 1/16" flow restrictor on the "in" side of the Frantz. So it takes part of the oil, cleans it and dumps it in with the rest. It cleans all of the oil within a short period of time.

 

My dad used Frantz filters from early mid sixties through his death in 2002 at age 95. He was always looking for something to improve his vehicles. Some things he did probably never made a difference. He swore by the Frantz filter though. He changed the TP about every three months though his miles probably did not warrant it. He only owned gas engines and never had any engine failures or problems. During the last few years of his life, I changed his filters and occasionally his oil - when needed. I think he went about 1000 miles for the TP change. I never observed any peices of TP in the oil and the TP roll always came off easy. It never took very long and if I used gloves, I stayed clean (true for any oil change).

That said, I do not own or have installed a frantz filter on any of the vehicles I have owned over the last 25 years. I change the oil as specified and use a good filter. During that time I have put a 1 and 1.5 million miles on vehicles - I have run the gas ones between 150000 adn 200000 before getting tired of them - they all ran nice when I let them go. My 91 CTD I plan on keeping for another 100000 or so, currently 193000. It has had regular oil changes and maintenance and wouldn't have needed to do anything to it if the original paint hadn't decided to flake off.

I believe you can make a case for Frantz, as well as regular oil changes with filter changes. It depends on how you drive, how much you drive.

 

My return line goes to the filler pipe, in about 400 miles flow is reduced by about 80% and I change it. I have another filter downstream from the frantz to catch any lint.

 

I'm really confused by this filter. Anyone have pics or a site link where to get one?


I guess it must be my young age making me clueless.

 

I was a dealer for Frantz back in the 70s and 80s. Must have installed a hundred of them, mainly on VWs, which were notorious for sucking in dirt with their "backwinder" thread they used on the pulley instead of a seal. Frantz changed hands and has been improved since then, but they are the real deal. I ignore the criticism as I have seen them make huge changes in the longevity of engines. The only caveat I would offer is to make darn sure you are not using TP designed to dissolve in RV type applications. The biggest positive I can think of is that by being a bypass unit, it allows the restrictive element (TP) to really clean the oil instead of just "strain it". The biggest negative I can come up with is the price! I found I had several of the earlier ones in stock, so I put one on my CTD and like having it there, but I have to admit that I would have a hard time coughing out the current price for one. The unit fits nicely behind the frront bumper and as stated, can be dumped back into the filler tube or plumbed into the oil pan. I used the filler tube. I stated my oil changing plans in a similar post.

 

WEFILTERIT

Or Ebay...

 

Holy cow, TP is TOILET PAPER!!!!!!!!! You really filter oil with that? I have trouble with it cleaning my butt right much less my oil. Seriously, a roll of TP will filter oil? Wouldnt it break down and fall apart into your engine? All the TP I know of is designed to breakdown when wet.

I though I was lost before, but now I'm really lost.

 

Refer to post #3

 

Note: this is opinion and questions. All flames are tolerated.

My guess it that the little bits of paper go into the pan and get filtered by the regular filter on the next pass. The cellulose would be attacked by any acid in the oil which would tend to neutralize the acid so that's a plus.

Perhaps the positive reports from users is based on the faith of the users and I would be interested in seeing some scientific test results if any exist. I would like to see how much particulate is in the input side vs. how much in the output and what the sizes of the particles are. If the particles on the output are larger than what gets filtered by the main filter then the only benefit I see would be the acid reduction.

Edwin

 

No flame intended -
I am just glad that I don't have to refer to a slew of scientific tests before I am willing to try something. I did a lot of snooping on the internet and found users from around the world that said "it works". So I tried it myself and it did. No matter how much I prove to my skeptical friend that it does work he still wants more "scientific proof". I wonder if there really is enough "proof" to convince him? I have found that it is just easier to enjoy my filter and let him think what he wants...

PS - my other "favorite invention" is the FLOWBEE. Remember that? I've been using one for 8 years now, meanwhile laughing at all of the people that think it "couldn't possibly work".

 

So can you use any cheap TP or is it only a special type? Luckily with this one TP is cheap so I can rig up a simular setup and run a few gallons of dirty black oil through it. If it comes out cleaner and the TP holds up I'll be all for it. If it just falls apart into an oily mess I'm not out any money. I think I'll use a small coffee can, drill a bunch of 1/8" holes around the outside bottom, put the TP in, and use some expandable foam to fill the center. Then dump in the oil on top and see how it comes out.

With me driving a gaser again it needs all the filtration it can get to keep it on the road 300K. I'm going to go get started. Maybe I can take some before and after pics and put them in my gallery.




The FLOWBEE, isnt it that the clippers that conect to a vacume? I was like 10 years old when they came out.