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Old 02-21-2018, 05:23 PM
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D to w swap

Simple question easier to change frames or convert 2wheel frame I have both options
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Big issue is front crossmember and spring mounts . I have measurements to build custom front crossmember . RamChargerCentral.com member Jungle , bulits custom steering box mounts , front spring mounts , after that I think it’s home run time
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Originally Posted by cabtruck
Simple question easier to change frames or convert 2wheel frame I have both options
Mark Mknittle did his conversion. TC Thrashingcows did his conversion. Bothe had their technical difficulties. Drilling holes in frame in inaccessible areas looked to be the biggest gripe.

Review both of their build threads and make the call on your comfort level.


Me? I'd go easy peasy and transfer all my junk over to a factory 4x4 frame.
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Originally Posted by NJTman
Mark Mknittle did his conversion. TC Thrashingcows did his conversion. Bothe had their technical difficulties. Drilling holes in frame in inaccessible areas looked to be the biggest gripe.

Review both of their build threads and make the call on your comfort level.


Me? I'd go easy peasy and transfer all my junk over to a factory 4x4 frame.
iv looked at the build threads just trying to figure which way to go I have looked at jungles parts their quality but I could build my own for a whole lot less cash I’ll figure it out just looking for other opinions
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I agree with Tman. Swap frames. Seems like less hassle and fewer ways to mess up the job. Do you have a big trans tunnel or small?
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Isn't there a difference between diesel and non-diesel frames?
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I agree with Tman. Swap frames. Seems like less hassle and fewer ways to mess up the job. Do you have a big trans tunnel or small?
it’s got a big tunnel
both are diesel frames
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Isn't there a difference between diesel and non-diesel frames?
Diesel frames are thicker than gasser frames and older frames are shorter than the last few years of 1st gen dodges.He's fortunate enough to have both, eh?
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Diesel frames are thicker than gasser frames
I don't think this is correct.
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Originally Posted by Alec
I don't think this is correct.
89-91 They used all the same frames. The D150 I have is the same frame as my W250. One 90 and the other is 91.

My 93 RC might be different, I would need to look.
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Originally Posted by Alec
I don't think this is correct.
I'm not an expert, nor did I sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night either.

Oliver's RC was built by wheelieking/ MOPAR dude, and he mentioned the frames in the diesels were thicker when he built the truck. I've heard other members quote the thicker frame theory on this site many times.

If I'm wrong, that's okay, but I swear Papecat mentioned Terry Elders and the frames being made thicker to deal with the excess weight and torque of the lump.

Maybe I smoked too much hash that day.

Can anyone verify this? I'd be much happier knowing I wasn't spewing lies and untruths.

Lol
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The thickness of the metal used in the frame varies from 2wd/ 4x4 and also 150/250/350 frames differences as well as in cab and bed configuration.
The long wheel base Cab Chassis 1st gen trucks being some of the thickest metal along with the crew that where .210 or .250 thick.
The frame height also varies over the years.
I have seen many 6 inch tall frames, a few 7 inch tall frames and the '92-'93 ex cab long beds had a special 8 inch tall frame.

The RC frame on my '89 is about .158, the '89 w-250 frame used on the front half is just under .200 inches thick, off the top of my head.

Pass that hash over here T-man....
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Originally Posted by bannerd
89-91 They used all the same frames. The D150 I have is the same frame as my W250. One 90 and the other is 91.

My 93 RC might be different, I would need to look.
Not true.
I have a '91.0 W-350 with a 7 inch thick/tall frame.
My '91.0 W-250 has a 6 inch thick/tall frame.
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Semantics is a dirty word.

To be clear, thickness (what I was speaking of) is the actual thickness of the metal itself. The height of the frames changed (tall vs shorter) and I was under the impression that 92/93 had thicker metal frames.
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Originally Posted by oliver foster
The thickness of the metal used in the frame varies from 2wd/ 4x4 and also 150/250/350 frames differences as well as in cab and bed configuration.
The long wheel base Cab Chassis 1st gen trucks being some of the thickest metal along with the crew that where .210 or .250 thick.
The frame width also varies over the years.
I have seen many 6 inch tall frames, a few 7 inch tall frames and the '92-'93 ex cab long beds had a special 8 inch tall frame.

The RC frame on my '89 is about .158, the '89 w-250 frame used on the front half is just under .200 inches thick, off the top of my head.

Pass that hash over here T-man....
Lol... Will do.

These statistics are what I recall previously reading.

Thanks Ollie


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