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Cummins Ramcharger Build Thread

Old Jun 12, 2014 | 02:15 PM
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Engine up and out, remaining frame cut away and hauled off, ready to get washed one last time and dropped in:

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Old Jun 12, 2014 | 02:26 PM
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Even with all the fluids drained, this power plant is incredibly heavy. Since my driveway has a slight grade and the metal casters kept getting stuck in the expansion joints, it took me and my wife a little while to get it pushed up to the carport, 6 inches at a time. When we finally got it into position, I had to remove the wheels and lower the front end until the rotors nearly touched the ground. With the nose end of the truck down that far, I had the clearance I needed to pass the oil pan over the crossmember and set everything down on the mounts. I used the mounts that came in the Ramcharger since the W250 mounts were trashed. With a little adjusting, they were in the perfect position to hold the Cummins without and binding or twisting. TIP: it really helps to remove the wiper motor before installing the engine since the #6 valve cover wants to bump into it before everything is lowered into position.

I also used the crossmember from the Ramcharger to support the transmission and transfer case. It doesn't have the provisions for the skid plate and is shaped a bit differently, but after drilling 4 holes so I could move it towards the rear a few inches, everything lined up and bolted in without a fuss. Here it is mounted with the wheels back in:

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Old Jun 12, 2014 | 02:35 PM
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After reinstalling the transfer case and measuring the distance between the output yoke and the rear end (a very short 31"), I decided that spacers between the frame and the crossmember to reduce the pinion angle might be a good idea. I haven't seen anybody else do this, so I know it's not necessary, but it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling, especially since I'll be pulling a little more height on it in the future.

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Old Jun 12, 2014 | 02:38 PM
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With the drivetrain completely installed, I just needed to clean up the engine wiring harness, which included cutting the loom, deleting the grid heater relays and wires and taping it all back up. Here's a shot with the new PS lines, core support, radiator, intercooler, etc. installed and the transmission cooler lines hooked back up:

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Old Jun 12, 2014 | 02:46 PM
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...and the intercooler tubing, new Diamond Eye 4" turbo-back exhaust (ordered this from Tony and Crystal at Mighty Diesel Performance for $280, shipped, and it was on my front steps in under 72 hours!) installed:

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The exhaust is, of course, made for a first gen pickup, so I needed to trim a few inches off of a couple of pieces and completely omit the intermediate (muffler delete) pipe, but it fit perfectly, clearing everything without any rattling or knocking. I was back and forth between Diamond Eye and MBRP (the only exhaust for diesels I have any experience with) but decided to go with the former and couldn't be pleased more with the quality and fitment. It's superb. Buy with confidence.
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Old Jun 14, 2014 | 02:30 PM
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The fuel sending unit was an interesting problem to solve. The '91-'93 unit is held in by a collar where the smaller, pre-'91 gas unit is much smaller and is held in with machine screws.

I had a few options: First, I could find a '91-'93 Ramcharger tank with the later model collar setup and just use the diesel cup-style sending unit. Second, I could cut the gas tank and fab a collar to use the diesel sending unit. I opted to use the gas pickup since it already fit the tank I have and the inner diameter of the tube is the same as my existing fuel lines (5/16"). The only problem was that the early gasoline fuel lever sender ohms differently than my '91.5 fuel gauge. I decided to remove the float, arm and sender from the gas pickup and install the diesel one to it. It wires right up, even the wire colors are the same, just with different connectors. I had to use a tiny bit of aluminum sheet metal, but it was fast and easy and, more importantly, was a direct drop-in.

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Old Jun 14, 2014 | 02:41 PM
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All that was left was to do a function check of lights, horns, install filters, fill fliuds, double check clamps, clips, plugs, etc. and bolt the sheet metal back up...

Starting to look like a truck again:

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Once the exhaust was all buttoned up, and the brakes checked and bled (I deleted the ABS by simply not swapping over the rear metering block. The brake hose from the D70 went right into the Ramcharger's hard line right at the bracket), the fuel system primed and the battery charged and hooked up, I turned the key and it fired up instanly. I let it idle, checked for leaks, gave it a bit of throttle once it was warm and went through the gears/4wd to make sure everything engaged. Good to go! Now it's official:

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Old Jun 14, 2014 | 02:50 PM
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Here it is, Just a few wires need to be plugged into the transmission and the block heater cord stowed before it's ready for the first ride down the road:

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Old Jun 15, 2014 | 02:53 AM
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That is way cool.

How long did it take you? Seemed fast but if I followed you right you were done & just posting pictures and explaining how you did it?
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Old Jun 15, 2014 | 07:58 AM
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That has got to be fun to drive.
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Old Jun 15, 2014 | 08:21 AM
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Great Job Marine ! Really looks nice ! Noticed your artwork. I was with the AC/S Comptrollers MWHS-2 Cherry Point. SEMPER FI !
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Old Jun 15, 2014 | 09:15 AM
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Looks way good!

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Old Jun 15, 2014 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by KRB
That is way cool.

How long did it take you? Seemed fast but if I followed you right you were done & just posting pictures and explaining how you did it?
Thank you, and that's what I did; documented it as I went along and posted the build after the fact. It took 19 days working 10-12 hours Saturday and Sunday and 3-4 each weekday with hand tools all by my lonesome. If you use air tools and have help, you can do it faster.

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That has got to be fun to drive.
It was fun. It's better now... I'll explain in the next post.

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Great Job Marine ! Really looks nice ! Noticed your artwork. I was with the AC/S Comptrollers MWHS-2 Cherry Point. SEMPER FI !
Thanks, Devil. 2/6 Fox, Camp Lejeune. Kill bodies.

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Looks way good!
Thanks. it's definitely one of those things that never gets finished.
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Old Jun 15, 2014 | 12:52 PM
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Right off the bat it ran like a skunk ape from a camera flash just from the new exhaust, BHAF and a minimal amount of pump tuning. At least it felt that way compared to the stock setup in the pickup truck.

I need to focus on suspension, wheels, tires, interior pieces, proper fuel tank straps and a new windshield, but I just can't help digging into a Cummins sometimes. I have a 180hp p-pump, lines, 2nd gen injectors, timing cover, pump gear and intake/piping, so I figured I'd get it all together and cleaned up and throw it on the Ramcharger. First, I had to get rid of the H1C. Pitiful.

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So, I went ahead and threw an HX35 in there. I figure I can turn the fuel up more and bump the timing, this way it'll have a little more go between now and the p-pump swap.

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I don't think it flows much more than the H1C did, but its whistle is much louder and lights much faster. It lights so much sooner that I didn't anticipate it while my foot was in the pedal hard, waiting for it to spool, and it threw my toolbox right through the lift gate and onto the street because I didn't let out in time.

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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 11:15 AM
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Just a little update. Scored some 16x10 wheels and a set of 285s that are in better shape than mine (not a high bar to clear, I admit) on CL for a cool hundo. Even with the used tires, they all balanced out with under 3 ounces of weight, so I threw 'em on there, checked my steering range... no rubbing or hitting the springs or fenders! WOOT! They ride nice and smooth and look way better than the old steelies, imo.

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You'll notice I also pulled the safari rack. The wind noise was ridiculous and I never used it. I think it even looks better without it.
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