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Old Mar 20, 2021 | 06:16 PM
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Angry Bumper problem

Need help! attempting to restore a 1992 Dodge D250 club cab.Seeking a rear step bumper preferably black. The problem: Ordered the first one and received a bumper for a Dakota. Second one is FEY part number 20000. A check with four different sources state that this number will fit my pickup using the universal bracket kit. The bumper mounting points are a good 2-3/4" short of making it to the bracket mounts. Do I have a pickup with extra wide frame or what am I doing wrong?
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Old Mar 20, 2021 | 07:27 PM
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welcome to the world of first gen Dodges! they were totally orphaned in 1994 and replacement parts only manufactured until around 2004, the aftermarket is sketchy at best and VERY limited, you basically are in the same boat as a Studabaker owner looking for parts for say a 1959 Lark.... NOW the good news, Oliver on this site has hoarded most every available 1st gen parts truck in the USA and might be able to get you a bumper.... I'm in Tucson and my issue is trying to find ANY usable interior plastic parts even my spare parts truck (a 1992 club cab D250) with mint interior had all the plastic disintigrate... including off the bumpers I'm trying to keep a couple 93 W250s on the road myself..
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Old Mar 20, 2021 | 09:00 PM
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Thanks for the response AZ2A! I appreciate your input, I have found a number of sources for the alleged bumper, all are for the same bumper from the same supplier or builder, https://westinautomotive.com ... What I think might help me is to get a measurement on an OEM bumper from inside to inside on the bracket mounting tab. Had this one in storage to long to return, in fact I do not remember who I purchased it from! If all else fails I will have to consider welding new mounts to it which will cause a slight problem with the finish.

Also I can relate very well with your interior plastic molding problem, I too have lost all the trim bordering the headliner and have one damaged door panel. I have not tried it yet but plan one purchasing some plastic molding with simulated wood appearance. By cutting down one lip on corner molding and heat bending it may take care of the headliner problem. For the door panels, I was watching an episode of "Cold war motors" on U-tube. He repaired a door panel including rebuilding of the armrest with a product called "Fibral" body builder, a U-POL product.

For what it is worth, I have owned my 92 D250 since it was new! Built in 1991 makes now time to celebrate its 30th birthday. Its present for this year is a new paint job and replacing two tires that were installed in 1994. With the exception of pulling the bed for a flatbed everything is EOM. By sliding seats (two drivers) I logged 32,000 miles on her in the first 2-1/2 months delivering RV trailers from La to Calgary Alberta. Rear end was rebuilt and the VE pump was gone through after burning Two 55 gallon drums of home made fuel.
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Old Mar 20, 2021 | 11:04 PM
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if nobody else provides the measurments I can get em in the morning... here in AZ ya don't wanna be crawlin around under a truck in the dark if its been sitting for awhile... your liable to disturbs a noisy squater living under it
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Old Mar 21, 2021 | 04:01 AM
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Dang, how many miles now?
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Old Mar 21, 2021 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by AZ2A
if nobody else provides the measurements I can get em in the morning... here in AZ ya don't wanna be crawling around under a truck in the dark if its been sitting for awhile... your liable to disturbs a noisy squatter living under it
Located another 1992 owner locally, Thanks for the offer but I can get measurements as well as a pattern for the brackets. I am not impressed with the "Universal" bracket kits available. Looks like over the years Chevy, Ford, and Dodge have all used the same bumper.
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Old Mar 21, 2021 | 10:19 AM
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Dang, how many miles now?
Good question KRB, unfortunately the Odometer quit after resetting the trip mileage, this happened in 2012 with 136,000 on it at that time. The truck has been used very little since that date, I can only estimate that it probably is around 175,000 now. As previously stated it has the same rubber on the ground that was installed in 1994!
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Old Mar 21, 2021 | 05:51 PM
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I basically bolted a factory '87 f250 step bumper on my D250. Frame width is the same (~38"). Holes in same spots.

Chevy is the odd duck for frame width. 34" on old ones, then 36", later I don't even know.
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Old Mar 22, 2021 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by u2slow
I basically bolted a factory '87 f250 step bumper on my D250. Frame width is the same (~38"). Holes in same spots.

Chevy is the odd duck for frame width. 34" on old ones, then 36", later I don't even know.
The bumper bracket kit that I ordered with the bumper contains two spacer blocks about 1/2" thick. The instructions state that these are for use on 1988-2000 Chevy/GMC F/S truck. To make up the total of the 2" difference the brackets are to be turned with the offset inwards and mounted on the inside of the frame rails. This is simply reversed for the 1973-87 and 1973-91 crew cab. Instructions also includes 1967-72 Ford with 34" frame, 1973-98 with 37-3/4" fame.

All this educational and pretty simple to follow and sounds logical! Unfortunately any attempt to mount these on my 1992 Dodge (also a 38" frame) as instructed, I am still coming up a good 2-1/2" shy of the brackets. If it does not work for me then I must have the wrong bumper although 4 Dealers insist that it is the correct one.

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Old Mar 23, 2021 | 07:24 PM
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Got some numbers from a neighbors 1991 to compare OEM bumper with Westin's EY series. 1992 Dodge frame =38" Westin mounting tabs =36-5/8" OEM tabs 38-1/2" Westin overall length or width 74-1/4" OEM Length 77-1/2' = Westin's bumper is 3-1/4" to short!

Looking forward to finding someone who can prove me wrong on this, or will my present opinion of Westin products stand.
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