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Ninty_three12v 01-29-2019 01:55 PM

2wd frame/ 4wd frame
 
Hey everybody, got what is one question may turn into 100... I've got a 93 w250 ext cab and it is 4x4.. BUT has frame rot.. I've thought about patching but plan to haul a horse trailer maybe even a toy hauler some day soo, not my go to.. but there us a 2x4 frame for sale with ZERO rot... what would need done to through my 4x4 drivetrain onto that frame??
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.die...f7514862f4.jpg

patdaly 01-31-2019 11:18 AM

Move this where it will get more attention.

It can be done relatively easily by transferring the crossmember.

patdaly 01-31-2019 11:25 AM

Here you go, epic conversion thread, done right.

https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...0-w250-314771/

oliver foster 01-31-2019 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by patdaly (Post 3357690)
Move this where it will get more attention.

It can be done relatively easily by transferring the crossmember.


I would not use the word easy, straightforward, maybe, but it is not a easy swap.
The 2wd crossmember is welded in. Lots of grinding, cutting, measuring, drilling, mounting, ETC.

I would find the correct frame for it if you had the choice.

I know where there is a '92 rust free 4x4 ex cab long bed frame...

Check out the thread Pat attached and see what you think.


Ninty_three12v 01-31-2019 12:13 PM

Thank you both, and to be honest I have no idea how "move" this or really how to navigate this forum yet. But that thread that was just shared to me is perfect. And Oliver I may have to check out this 92 ext frame you know of. This ones in NC I'm in Ohio so I'll already be traveling. He wants $300 with leaf

oliver foster 01-31-2019 03:10 PM

$300 is a good price IF you needed a 2wd frame.

Check out Mark's 2wd to 4x4 swap thread and see if saving $ is worth all the work.
I bet Mark has 100s of hours into his 4x4 swap...what is your time worth?
He went over the top on a bunch of things "while he was there", so it could be done faster and cheaper.

Ninty_three12v 01-31-2019 03:27 PM

Mark the link there up above? I will look into it. I thought 300 wasnt bad. But, I have heard it's a lot to take on really

thrashingcows 01-31-2019 04:04 PM

You can check out my thread as well....in my signature. I did a 2wd to 4wd swap on my crewcab a few years ago, lots of pics and info. Mark's thread is a great resource as well. ;)

u2slow 01-31-2019 10:37 PM

If the rust is localized on the W250... like aft of the cab somewhere... a cut & splice could save you some work.

oliver foster 02-01-2019 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by u2slow (Post 3357710)
If the rust is localized on the W250... like aft of the cab somewhere... a cut & splice could save you some work.

This is very true and I prefer the cut and splice method myself.
The big problem I see is he has the 8 inch thick frame which is usually only found on the diesel '92/'93 Ex-cab long bed diesel frames.
Which means you will need to find the most sought after 4x4 frame in great shape and cut it in half.
Which at that point, you could use it whole.

Most of the rusty 1st gen frames are worse from the cab back, the front is usually pretty solid.

u2slow 02-01-2019 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by oliver foster (Post 3357712)
The big problem I see is he has the 8 inch thick frame which is usually only found on the diesel '92/'93 Ex-cab long bed diesel frames.

All the intercooled std cab trucks i've run into had the 8" frame too. But not on 92-93 gas std cab.

oliver foster 02-01-2019 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by u2slow (Post 3357715)
All the intercooled std cab trucks i've run into had the 8" frame too. But not on 92-93 gas std cab.

That is not my experience.
The '93 LE W-250 4x4 auto 12V I am working on tonight in the shop has the much more common 7 inch frame.

u2slow 02-01-2019 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by oliver foster (Post 3357725)
That is not my experience.
The '93 LE W-250 4x4 auto 12V I am working on tonight in the shop has the much more common 7 inch frame.

That's is interesting. Never encountered the 7" frame on a Cummins truck. 6" or 8" every time. Mexico or USA production? I helped wreck out a '93 W250 std cab w/8". And my buddy drives a '93 D250 std cab w/8". Both were Mexico production.

u2slow 02-01-2019 10:41 PM

I forgot to add... I have 7" frames on two 70's 1tons - both gas of course.

Diesel_Dawg 02-02-2019 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by u2slow (Post 3357715)
All the intercooled std cab trucks i've run into had the 8" frame too. But not on 92-93 gas std cab.

This has been my experience as well.


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