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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 09:29 AM
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2004 ps intercooler on 1st gen!

well i am going to intercool my rig with a powerstroke intercooler!

will the intake elbow off a 91.5-93 IC work on my 90 non-IC? or will i have to fab one up?

another ?, will a 91-93 grill work on a 89-90? any replys will help

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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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The intake elbow will not bolt directly to an early H1C compressor housing. It (the elbow) uses a band clamp and there is no provision for band-clamping on the early non-intercooled compressor housings. High Tech Turbo (and others) have upgrade compressor housings/wheels for your H1C that are cast with the band clamp in mind. Not too much $$$ and a preformance increase to boot. The grille will work, I think, but the real problem is the entire core support was not designed with intercooling in mind..most who have done what you're attempting have swapped in the entire core support/grill from a 91.5-up. Look up member Sammy340 and check out his pics. He did just what you're wanting to do--with a 6.oh-no! intercooler, no less!! Now, he's lovin' life in the cooool air zone while guys like us are still bending the needles on our pyros! Hey Jeff, are you gonna sell me that I/C, or what!?!?
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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91 i/c intake elbow on a 90 non i/c

well thanks G1625S, ya i saw sammy340's pics, looks sharp! but i am wondering about the elbow off the grid heater, going into the intake manifold, not coming off the compressor.
will that elbow off the grid heater ( intake horn ) off a 91-93 IC work on a 90 non-IC? thanks.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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Those elbows are the same size, yes The intake manifold plate may have the square opening in a different place on the I/C trucks, but if the setup is custom, that measurement can be absorbed in fabrication anyway.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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Just have to flip that intake manifold around. The bolt pattern is symetrical. It will move the opening a couple inches forward so that the intake horn/intercooler pipe clears the master cylinder. If you had access to the 91-93 grill, you'd be best to use the intercooled core support, and all from the 91.5-93 truck. I'm not sure if the grill would line up with the 89-90 hardware. Maybe a little trimming along the headlight area. Nothing some fabbing wouldn't take care of. Anything thicker than stock 91.5-93 intercooler you'll need the intercooled core support. The grill itself isn't the problem, its the hood latch support that runs vertical between the hood latch and the bottom of the core support. On mine it runs about an inch away from the 93 intercooler. I also had to take a big notch out of it to clear the bottom of the IC.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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intake plate!

thanks bill, i was lookin at the master cylinder and figured the intake hole got moved up in 91.5.
so flippin the plate will work? i assume thats what you have done on yours?
i am going to keep my core support. there will me some mods made to it though. but its all good! i am trying to figure a way to make it work with my air-conditioning though. Florida is to hot with out it.
i wish i was back in the north west. sure do miss the mountians! its a lil wired to be in shorts and flipp flops in december. any ways.

i have read a few people say they have a 93 radiator mods. is the 93 rad. better than lets say a 90? any help hear would help. on a hot summer day here 70-75 mph she jumps a lil on the temp. but at 65-67 mph shes on the button. dang florida heat! should have picked orders to Brunswick Maine.

back to the intake plate and horn. i saw a pic of a banks twin port horn on a 1st gen. i was wondering if any one else hase seen this? and what would it take. just a custom intake plate? thanks.
Bob.

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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 02:42 PM
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The radiators from intercooled trucks are cross-flow design...meaning, the tanks are on the sides and the coolant flows from left to right, rather than top to bottom, like our older trucks with tanks on the top and bottom. Don't be afraid of that temp gauge moving when it's hot...even with the old style radiator, there's still a lot of headroom for heat absorbtion, as these cooling systems were designed with towing heavy loads in mind. IMO, save your money on the Bank$ stuff.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 03:04 PM
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banks

, i dont plan on spending my money on banks stuff! i was just wondering on the twin horn set up on a 1st gen. i saw it in a pic. it looked sharp! just woundering if it worked good, and if any one else has seen or done it.
i ant scared about the temp. i know how high it gets when towing, and whats exceptable. (my truck gets to pull a trailer now and then, 12,500lbs. being the most). and i know where she sits when shes emty. i was just saying it runs hotter here in the south. and its all flat here!

can a 91.5-93 radiator work with a 90 core support, or will it need a matching year core support? thanks greg.

Bob

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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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I've heard they'll fit with some fussing about, etc. You WILL, however, need the thermostat housing/water neck from an I/C truck. It turns a sharp corner that would be all but impossible with rubber hose. Check out some of the different 1st genners galleries and you'll run into an underhood pic that shows what I mean.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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Forget about stuffing any intercooler in with an ac condensor in there with a 89-90 grill. Not gonna happen. If you want to keep AC, you'll need to do the whole swap, everything from the 91.5-93.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 03:31 PM
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AC condencer

Bill, thanks.

do you know if the AC condencer it self is diffrent from the 89-90 to the 91-93.?

i geuss i will start to call the salvage yards.

a cheap 2004 6.0 ps intercooler . its ganna cost me in the long run. but it will be worth it. . thanks bill, and greg.

any one else on this matter?
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 90dodge
do you know if the AC condencer it self is diffrent from the 89-90 to the 91-93.?
I don't know, but I'm sure you could make the 89-90 condensor work with the 91-93 core support.
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a cheap 2004 6.0 ps intercooler . its ganna cost me in the long run. but it will be worth it. . thanks bill, and greg.
Whats the going rate on them?
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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going rate

i got mine for $90. pressure checked good. i have seen 1st gen ones go for $200, and banks 1st gen ones go for a $150. of course these are used, and off ebay. i seen 2 PS I/C go for over $ 200.

i have been shopping for a good deal on one for about a year. and finally one for under $100.

i am going to see if i can get a message to sammy340 about his PS I/C.

i think i can get my condecer to work. i seen a set of pics off of TDR on a 92 to 91 core support, and I/C. looks like its the old condencer. but the factory 1st gen I/C is a lot smaller than the PS I/C.
no worries though metal work, and makin things fit is what i get payed for. no will it work after wards sure it will
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 03:57 PM
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A/C condendor

dose any one know if i can use my 90 radiator on a 93 core support?
or will i have to locate a 93 radiator as well?

any feed back will be great. want to get all the ducks in a row before adding the PS I/C. thanks!

Bob
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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Im pretty sure you can get your 90 rad to work without much fuss but the 93 rad is much better then your 90 so it might be better just to get the 93 if u can.
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