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Old 07-03-2019, 11:25 AM
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1st gen towing tips

So to those of you that regularly tow with your trucks, looking for some tips to make the experience more enjoyable. My truck is stock besides rear shocks and DE exhaust, no pump tuning or anything performance wise. It also has 4:10 gears and the g360 trans. The trailer I will be towing is a 27ft bumper pull travel trailer that comes in around 7K dry. I know some things like staying out of 5th if there is any grade, looking for tips or suggestions for mods here. I am planning on picking up a Glowshift 3in 1 gauge to watch EGTs, Boost, and Fuel Pressure after summer. At that point I will probably play with tuning the pump.

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Old 07-03-2019, 11:31 AM
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I don't know, with 4:10 gears you should be able to pull the limit in 5th gear. I have the 3:54 gears and a heavy trailer will slow me down a little. My rig is similar to yours, except the gearing, but I have the ip pushed to the head...Mark
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I don't know, with 4:10 gears you should be able to pull the limit in 5th gear. I have the 3:54 gears and a heavy trailer will slow me down a little. My rig is similar to yours, except the gearing, but I have the ip pushed to the head...Mark
Factory gearing options are 3.07 [almost always only on the '89-'91.0 NON O/D autos] , 3.54 and 4.10 on our 1st gens.

If you want to stay out of 5th gear while towing and you find the 4.10 gears are too much, you can try a slightly bigger tire size, to lower your RPM at highway speed a bit.
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I have heard mixed reviews of the Glow Shift products, with most of the reviews being that they are cheap and of low quality.

I personally run Auto Meters on my Dodges and have for 20+ years.

I would recommend using a good quality gauge as a gauge that reads off, or doesn't work at all, is not worth installing.
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I agree with Oliver....get the auto meter pillar pods, not the glow shift since I have read of several people not very happy with the angle of the glow shift pillar set-up. Or you can pick up one of the reproduction Banks 3 or 4 hole dash mounted pods set-up....I picked up 2 of the 4 hole units for my trucks, haven't installed them yet but I got 'em. I have been running Isspro gauges for close to 10 years and they have never given me an ounce of issue.
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If towing with 4:10's you should have at a minimum a 3200 rpm gov spring in your IP.
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Originally Posted by oliver foster View Post
Factory gearing options are 3.07 [almost always only on the '89-'91.0 NON O/D autos] , 3.54 and 4.10 on our 1st gens.

If you want to stay out of 5th gear while towing and you find the 4.10 gears are too much, you can try a slightly bigger tire size, to lower your RPM at highway speed a bit.
I knew that, I just miss fingered ...Mark
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If towing with 4:10's you should have at a minimum a 3200 rpm gov spring in your IP.
Yeah, I'm thinking this is my biggest issue. Winding the gears out too quick and loosing boost between shifts.
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With 4:10's your not going to have as big of a drop between 3rd and 4th that you do with 3.54's.....it's just the factory Gov spring starting to defeul the IP at around 2200rpm, and if you are having to try and keep up HWY speeds with 4.10's in 4th your going to be spinning well over 2000 rpm.
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There is no reason to stay out of 5th gear unless you start lugging the engine going up an incline. I have the glow shift gauges (they were a gift) and they haven't given me any problems in the past 3 years or more. I bought the Autometer pillar pod but didn't like the angle at all. I ended up removing the message center (who really needs that anyway?) and installing the boost and EGT gauges there.
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On my '85 crew cab I installed my boost and pyro. gauges where the message center would be in the '89-'93 trucks, like AJ did.
In the '85s is was just a small cubby hole.

I also add PTO cooler plates to my manual trucks so they cool better, which helps if you are hauling down the road in 5th.
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Ford 16x7 wheels and 285/75R16 is a nice tire size bump. (33") They're normally rated for 3750# and you can keep your hubcaps.

I run 3.54 w/35's and tow anything I can hitch up to it. (so far... lol)
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brakes

I regularly tow a 6,000# boat/trailer load about 150 miles back & forth on I-95 in CT and RI. Manual 'Rag and I don't tow up-grade in o/d. My goal is to avoid braking so I stay in the right lane and leave a lot of room in front of me. My boat trailer has surge brakes but it's not clear that they engage that well, so I downshift when necessary. Most of the time, other drivers stay away from my rig (other than to give me dirty looks as they pass me). Still, there are obliviots who will turn from the middle lane to make an exit a few hundred yards away, skimming the front of my truck. They must be tired of living because I'm 12,000# rolling with a very stout, solid steel bumper. I have a dash cam running whenever the engine is, so if I obliterate one of these morons, I'll have video to prove that they committed suicide in front of me. I have my truck's brakes serviced regularly. You can't be too careful out there!
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I've been thinking about a dash cam for the traffic here in SoCal. Any suggestions on which type/brand. Is the rear view worth the extra?

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Brakes are the weak link IMO. If I had a stick I'd be saving money for an exhaust brake and springs. Otherwise just make sure your trailer brakes are spot on.
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