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1st gen cummins sudden death

Old 10-15-2018, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by nonrev
No need to drain the oil but you will need to drain the radiator and pull it
I have heard of several people doing their KDP without pulling the Rad..
You could just pull the fan shroud, clutch fan / fan hub at the same time, so as not to risk cracking the fan shroud.

It depends if you want a little extra room to wrench.
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Old 10-15-2018, 10:42 PM
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Well if there are fully aluminum radiators available, I'd love to put one of those in anyways; thoughts? (That's if I won't be out of money/a big repair).
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If you look up KKS on e bay you will find the Alum rad. far less then the top name brand and work's just as well. before pulling everything apart try taking the intake hose from the inner cooler off and spray some WD40 into intake see if it tries to start . If it does then Don't take the engine apart. double check to see if the fuel is shooting out of the Line right off the injector .that will give you an idea what is going on .What ever you do Don't Use Starting fluid and do your engine a favor and get RID of the K&N air filter they can cause more Problem's then good . Use a AFe or any Dry filter you can .
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Originally Posted by RamGuy84
If you look up KKS on e bay you will find the Alum rad. far less then the top name brand and work's just as well. before pulling everything apart try taking the intake hose from the inner cooler off and spray some WD40 into intake see if it tries to start . If it does then Don't take the engine apart. double check to see if the fuel is shooting out of the Line right off the injector .that will give you an idea what is going on .What ever you do Don't Use Starting fluid and do your engine a favor and get RID of the K&N air filter they can cause more Problem's then good . Use a AFe or any Dry filter you can .
He's already pulled the #1 valve cover and has no movement in the valve train when cranking it over so I don't think wd40 is going to help
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Old 10-16-2018, 06:25 PM
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But when you are working by yourself like most of us do .he may have missed something you never know .
Old 10-16-2018, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RamGuy84
But when you are working by yourself like most of us do .he may have missed something you never know .
Decent point, but...
We are relying in the info. he gives us.
If he cranks it over and tell us the valve train doesn't move while it actually is...it is going to be real tough to help him brain storm issues

On a side note does the new WD-40 blend even run a Cummins anymore?
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So what would the wd-40 do, in theory. Also, tell me more about why K&N is bad. Thank you all VERY MUCH! I'm so grateful to have a free team of experts at my disposal!
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WD-40 USED to ignite or at least burn. Not as big a bang as gasoline or starting fluid though. I don't think it does at all any more though? Was a "safer" form of providing combustion to a diesel.
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Old 10-17-2018, 07:05 AM
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WD-40 does not work anymore just tried that a few months ago when I had fuel issues, and if your using starting fluid please disconnect your grid heater if its still intact.
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Old 10-17-2018, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ZAAR
WD-40 does not work anymore just tried that a few months ago when I had fuel issues, and if your using starting fluid please disconnect your grid heater if its still intact.

Thanks Zaar, That is what I have heard about the new WD-40.
Thanks for confirming.
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Oh, my grid heater doesn't work by default; probably lots of the fuseable links burnt out, will need to install a fuse panel. The overhead lights aren't connected either. I think I should just buy the original factory manual.
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As for K&N the reason they are Garbage is the oil that you put on the filter will collect dirt it will also get sucked into the intake and take that oil/dirt combo with it and into the turbo . Once it get's into turbo it will get into engine and take the cyl wall's out also ..As a rule of thumb Never use a Oiled filter on a cummin's use a dry filter such as AFE or any of the other brand's out there .
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Old 10-17-2018, 07:03 PM
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My last try with WD40 it worked did take a little more then Normal but did what I needed .
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When you say a little more you mean like a healthy half can lol? Couldn’t fire the wd40 I had if you put it in thermite.
I’ll stick to ether with the cylinder lubricant quick spritz quick run.

Besides the the truck we are speaking of has me Intrigued, only cause by default and operation if you spin the crank by hand the valve train should move, and this is gear driven either you’ve wiped a full gear or sheared the cam end “fractured” the proof will be the opening of the timing case.
I would be glad to dig into this just to diagnose it.
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Originally Posted by Gray92
Well if there are fully aluminum radiators available, I'd love to put one of those in anyways; thoughts? (That's if I won't be out of money/a big repair).
https://www.mishimoto.com/truck-jeep...l-cummins.html

Pricey but lifetime warranty and they mean it. Had a rock hit mine and cause a pin hole and they shipped a new one next day.

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