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Old 08-06-2018, 11:29 AM
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“Water in fuel” + “Wait to start” combo

every summer it’s the same combo on HHH days when the a/c compressor is engaged and the truck isn’t moving (exactly when a/c is needed). is this combination of lights trying to tell the operator something? engine temp is normal, so perhaps it’s stressing the electrical system? I don’t like idiot lights that recur in a predictable pattern...
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p.s. I don’t see a Sticky for A/C issues
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definitely the added load to the electrical system

ran the truck home with no a/c and was hot but had no issues with flashing dash lights

is this an issue that would be solved with the use of relays? Jim Lane's recent thread is highly technical but I'll take another crack at understanding it
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Do the lights come on steady or do they flicker.

My WTS light would flash on-off-on-off sometimes and I found the connector to the air temp sensor was flaky. I tightened it a bit and no more problem. As for the WTS light IDK.

There is a circuit that turns the lights on when you hit the starter which may be shorting out. If the line is shorted to ground it will turn on the lights in the message center and the brake warning light to test the bulbs. I posted the ignition circuit in the thread "Blower motor shutting off" which shows it for a 92 model.

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once I stop moving, the lights begin by flickering and quickly go to a steady glow

ince moving again they return to the flickering state
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My guess is that you definitely have an intermittent short to ground. Those can be hard to find. Look for a portion of the wiring that's chafing against a sharp edge of sheet metal.

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Edwin, if it’s a bad ground, why would the indicator lights be activated only during beastly hot conditions?
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Edwin, if it’s a bad ground, why would the indicator lights be activated only during beastly hot conditions?
I'm not saying it's a bad ground. I'm saying it's a short circuit to ground of the test line from the ignition switch. It's a remote possibility though. As far as heat goes, another remote possibility could be the plastic insulation of the wire could allow the short more readily when hot.

Intermittent connections or shorts are a beast to find. One technique is to wiggle wires around and see if that has an effect. Also the copyrighted Dodge fist thump on the dashboard.

The fact that it happens to both lights at the same time points to the common problem of the test line. If it isn't happening EXACTLY the same to both lights then forget about the test line as a cause.

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once I stop moving, the lights begin by flickering and quickly go to a steady glow

ince moving again they return to the flickering state

Maybe the circuit is grounding when the brakes are applied, through the brake light circuit. Just a guess
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I switched out the blower motor and this problem diskappeared
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