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Old Dec 28, 2002 | 02:47 AM
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Shift Kit or not?

Ok, I have been told by a transmission shop that it is a wast of time and money to put shift kits in our dodge automatics?? What are your opinions? My truck just seems to shift very soft and kinda searches from 1st to 2nd.....Recently rebuilt also........truck is a 97 3500 4x4 no mods cept straight pipe
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Old Dec 28, 2002 | 05:50 AM
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Find a tranny shop that knows what their talking about...I have the trans-go shift kit and it woke my tranny up...no more sloppy shifting ;D
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 04:29 PM
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Oh I have found a couple who say they work. Now I am just trying to make sure I pick the right one to do the work.
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 10:14 AM
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heavyg:<br><br>Welcome to the website!!<br><br>I don't know what transmission shop you went to but<br>they are giving you bad information! I agree with what<br>&quot;pappyman&quot; has already told you.<br><br>I have a 96' 12 valve that I bought new. Shortly after<br>purchasing the truck, I had a &quot;Trans Go Shift Kit&quot; installed<br>on the truck. My &quot;stock&quot; line pressures were pretty low<br>(about 50-55) and the shift kit &quot;raised&quot; these pressures<br>up to around 65-70 at idle. The shifts were firmer and the<br>transmission performed much better especially when towing<br>my racing trailer. At that time I was running a TST #6 cam<br>plate and my P7100 pump was set to the &quot;high side&quot; of the<br>specs. Rear wheel horespower was 225, torque 625 on a<br>Mustang Dynamometer. I ran this combination for 98,000<br>miles with no problems at all with the transmission!! <br><br>IMHO, I think a shift kit or complete valve body will help<br>your transmission very much, especially if you plan to do<br>any BOMBING to the truck! <br><br>However, find a transmission shop that knows what<br>they are doing and have them &quot;set&quot; your pressures<br>to what the manafacturer recommends.<br><br>Hope this has helped you some! Good luck!<br><br>-------<br>John_P <br>
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 11:50 AM
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Heavyg,<br><br>I also have a Trans-go shift kit and have found it to definately firm up the shifts. I had mine installed by a local &quot;CTD expert shop&quot; and have had some problems with it. They have it set a 103psi idle ! I've just about eliminated all of the limp mode problems and think if I lower the pressure down to mid 90's it may be all set. If I were to do it again, I'd get a VB from DTT or alike and install it myself. It would probably cost about the same as having a tranny shop install a shift kit.<br><br>Just my $0.02
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 08:05 PM
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HELLO If I understand it right DTT won't sell you a VB or TC you must be one of there afilliated installers. I just talked to them today an thats the impression I get. Since the shop they recomend for the job in my area can't do it (or won't) they say the next closest one to get it done at is about 400 miles away in Mass. I don't mind traveling some but I'm thinking of just getting a whole trans an everything set up for towing from Phoenix hard parts, good price too. Even with shipping, anyone know about these people.
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 08:26 PM
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Deezilla, Call Level 10 in NJ in Hardyston ask for Pat,201-827-1000 or if west caldwell NJ is closer for Mike at Auto werks diesel 973-226-7800 there both are great to work with.
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Also BD,Suncoast and Pro Torque are all billet style converters the DTT is not.
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 08:39 PM
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I haven't heard any complaints about Dave Goerend's Transmissions. I emailed him with some questions and he answered right away, on a Sunday morning no less. He's in Iowa. Here's the website. Goerend
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 09:35 PM
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Dezilla I have installed several transmissions from pheniox hard parts and all of them have been great and their price is unbeatable I do not know much about thier heavy duty trans all the ones I have done have been in gas engine vehicles. Matt
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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 05:36 AM
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I have the Phoenix hard parts upgraded tranny it has the low stall TC and the trans-go shift kit they dyno the tranny before shipping and set the pressures...I didnt need a hot rod tranny just a good working tranny that would hold my HP and Torque at a reasonable cost...so far no troubles with it shifts are firm and O/D lockup is smooth and positive...cost about $1700.00 plus shipping and core charge
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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 01:18 PM
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Deezilla:<br><br>You can also get a complete custom valve body from<br>Scheid Diesel (Effingham). They can set the valve body<br>up with the higher pressures for you. Give Brian or Rick<br>a call at Scheid Diesel (Effingham) @ 1-800-669-1934.<br><br>-------<br>John_P
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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 05:40 PM
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Hey Pappy whos torque converter did php use on your trans was it one of thier own or another companys does it hold you back better than the stock converter did when it comes out of lock up? Matt
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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 06:09 PM
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Cant remember the name on the TC box now...but it was heavy and billet...it was built by another company I had to wait for that to come in before they shipped my tranny a...as far as hold back I cant really say its more or less without an exhaust brake
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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 09:03 PM
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Re:Shift Kit or not?

Pappy what stall speed is your converter? How many miles do you have on it?
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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 09:14 PM
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[quote author=cumminsgetsome link=board=16;threadid=8885;start=0#86807 date=1041390191]<br>Pappy what stall speed is your converter? How many miles do you have on it?<br>[/quote]<br><br>Dont know what you mean by stall speed...but I have bout 2000 miles with heavy trailer miles on it...I just installed a TC lockup sw last week...and tonite on the way home from the local barley pop shop I hit WOT to merge into traffic ;D s@#t this old man that builds custom Big Motor V-Twins got scared :
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