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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 03:39 PM
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I have never torgued mine over 35-40 lbs. I have the HD plug the first oil change I used a 6 point socket and 35 lbs worked fine. The next I picked up the wrong socket 12 point and OOPS. That was taking it out not putting it in
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 06:33 PM
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Some of you are saying you use a socket.
I've drained the oil on a lot of these trucks and the only drain plugs I've run into take a 3/8" square drive.
Am I missing something?
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 06:55 PM
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3/8" drive here.... no idea what they're talking about
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 09:03 PM
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3/8" drive on both of mine as well as a friends 2003 that I service for them. I use a 1/2" breaker bar with a 3/8" adapter to take them out and a 3/8 breaker bar to tighten. Maybe the HD plug from Geno's has a hex head. BTW, it wouldn't matter if you were off road or not, the OP stated that he hit a piece of tire and broke his off. No amount of safety wire or hose clamp or cap is going to keep it from breaking off when it's sticking out that far.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by infidel
Some of you are saying you use a socket.
I've drained the oil on a lot of these trucks and the only drain plugs I've run into take a 3/8" square drive.
Am I missing something?
The confusion stems from some guys are talking about the OEM plug and some guys are talking about the HD drain plug from Genos Garage:

http://www.genosgarage.com/prodinfo....=HDOP-KIT-22MM
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by infidel
I'd never used a torque wrench on mine till I heard about all the broken plug fuss.
Took a torque reading once, I've been tightening both mine down to about 35 ft/lbs for over a half million trouble free miles.
See no reason for more torque.
Cool - I'll give that a try. Thanks for the info!
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by traverler48
I have never torgued mine over 35-40 lbs. I have the HD plug the first oil change I used a 6 point socket and 35 lbs worked fine. The next I picked up the wrong socket 12 point and OOPS. That was taking it out not putting it in
Wow - the HD plug strips at 35ft-lbs? I guess it's better than screwing up the pan but that seems really soft. . .
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 07:46 AM
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The OEM plug is a 3/8 square. The HD plug is a 9/16 6 point. A 6 point socket works ok on the HD plug. I use a 3/8 drive Torque wrench on either one.
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 12:43 PM
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There are two types of Fumotos also. One is tucked up in there nicely and drains horizontally. The other has a vertical drain that hangs down a bit. The front axle sits down three inches lower than the drain on mine with my 2" lift. Anything's possible in this world. I'm a preventive maintenance worry wort and this item is not on my exhaustive list.
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 11:35 PM
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What is wrong with the OEM, the one thing I have never, and I mean never considered replacing! stick the 3/8 drive in there, out comes the oil. pretty simple.
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 03:45 AM
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What is wrong with the OEM, the one thing I have never, and I mean never considered replacing! stick the 3/8 drive in there, out comes the oil. pretty simple.
I don't like how it goes from a dribble to a gusher in an 1/8 of a turn. The pan I have only has a 1" hole, so high volumes of oil at once make a big mess. The one I have you have to screw the hose onto for the valve to open. Never make a mess with it.
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 07:33 AM
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I've never understood "quick" type drain plugs, call me stupid but, who changes their oil enough to need this?? Ain't nobody changing their oil every weekend and needs this! I'll stick to the stocker, ain't got no faith in those quick drain plugs!
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 12:04 PM
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I've never understood "quick" type drain plugs, call me stupid but, who changes their oil enough to need this?? Ain't nobody changing their oil every weekend and needs this! I'll stick to the stocker, ain't got no faith in those quick drain plugs!

If you havent had one you wouldnt know how convienent, quick and clean they make oil changes. You dont even need a drain pan, you can drain your oil right into 1 gallon jugs.
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DragonSlayer
I've never understood "quick" type drain plugs, call me stupid but, who changes their oil enough to need this?? Ain't nobody changing their oil every weekend and needs this! I'll stick to the stocker, ain't got no faith in those quick drain plugs!
I do, and there have been times I drove 4000 or more miles in a week. After about 120 oil changes I have a lot of faith in my fumoto valve, I'm sure I would have worn out a stock plug by now. So, should I call you stupid?
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 05:35 PM
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Ok, sirs, to you I'm stupid. Fine. I'll trust my engine, my truck, to a tried and true design, which has been tested for how many years? If your precious quicky valve is so special to you, go ahead. I cannot argue the speed and ease of your coveted valve. Neither can you argue it to be a better replacement to the stock plug.
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