hydraulic/electric trailer brakes.
#1
hydraulic/electric trailer brakes.
Got my disks on my trailer. Used an electric/hydr actuator with a new prodigy for the controller.
Come to find out the constant positive wire that feeds to the trailer wiring connector is only good for 20 amps. The pump needs 37 amps start and 25ish to run. I don't want to have 2 connectors, but taking a look yesterday, the factory trailer wiring is pretty thin (maybe 18 guage). So I guess I am going to try and mod the factory connector to get at least 12 guage from a battery source to the connector. Couple pics of my disks and a tray I made for the back up battery and hydr/elec actuator.
Come to find out the constant positive wire that feeds to the trailer wiring connector is only good for 20 amps. The pump needs 37 amps start and 25ish to run. I don't want to have 2 connectors, but taking a look yesterday, the factory trailer wiring is pretty thin (maybe 18 guage). So I guess I am going to try and mod the factory connector to get at least 12 guage from a battery source to the connector. Couple pics of my disks and a tray I made for the back up battery and hydr/elec actuator.
#2
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1. I would have thought that the brake output from the controller was only a signal or control output to the actuator and that it would have drawn its primary actuator power from the trailer battery whose charge is maintained by the truck. Certainly the hydraulic pump actuators that are driven by an electric motor can't expect to draw their primary power from a brake controller.
2. Have you tried the Prodigy yet? I didn't think they were compatible with electric/hydraulic brakes since they send a low output pulse periodically through the brake output line to determine that the trailer is connected. This pulse is not powerful enough to engage the pure electric trailer brakes, but some electric/hydraulic actuators took this pulse as a braking signal, so you had the actuator working just about all of the time.
Rusty
2. Have you tried the Prodigy yet? I didn't think they were compatible with electric/hydraulic brakes since they send a low output pulse periodically through the brake output line to determine that the trailer is connected. This pulse is not powerful enough to engage the pure electric trailer brakes, but some electric/hydraulic actuators took this pulse as a braking signal, so you had the actuator working just about all of the time.
Rusty
#3
Originally posted by RustyJC
1. I would have thought that the brake output from the controller was only a signal or control output to the actuator and that it would have drawn its primary actuator power from the trailer battery whose charge is maintained by the truck. Certainly the hydraulic pump actuators that are driven by an electric motor can't expect to draw their primary power from a brake controller.
2. Have you tried the Prodigy yet? I didn't think they were compatible with electric/hydraulic brakes since they send a low output pulse periodically through the brake output line to determine that the trailer is connected. This pulse is not powerful enough to engage the pure electric trailer brakes, but some electric/hydraulic actuators took this pulse as a braking signal, so you had the actuator working just about all of the time.
Rusty
1. I would have thought that the brake output from the controller was only a signal or control output to the actuator and that it would have drawn its primary actuator power from the trailer battery whose charge is maintained by the truck. Certainly the hydraulic pump actuators that are driven by an electric motor can't expect to draw their primary power from a brake controller.
2. Have you tried the Prodigy yet? I didn't think they were compatible with electric/hydraulic brakes since they send a low output pulse periodically through the brake output line to determine that the trailer is connected. This pulse is not powerful enough to engage the pure electric trailer brakes, but some electric/hydraulic actuators took this pulse as a braking signal, so you had the actuator working just about all of the time.
Rusty
As for the controller. The company redesigned their electronics specifically around the new prodigy so it ignores the "tickle" it sends out for the electric brake solenoids. I used it for 150 miles before the fuse blew under the hood that supplies that 20 amp line to the factory connector.
#4
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Good to hear that one of the electric/hydraulic suppliers has taken care of the Prodigy problem.
I would highly suggest powering the actuator off the trailer battery. That minimizes the high amperage wiring you'll need to install, and the normal truck +12VDC lead should take care of the battery charge function between trailer brake applications. Also, in case of breakaway and actuation of the breakaway switch, the power source stays with the trailer.
Rusty
I would highly suggest powering the actuator off the trailer battery. That minimizes the high amperage wiring you'll need to install, and the normal truck +12VDC lead should take care of the battery charge function between trailer brake applications. Also, in case of breakaway and actuation of the breakaway switch, the power source stays with the trailer.
Rusty
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