cey800

Alright Guru's I need some assistance with my '92 250 4x4. The steering wheel has quite a bit of movement up, down, and side to side. If I had to guess, it would be at least 1/2" inch. The actual steering column is secure. It seams like the spline that the steering wheel is fastened to is loose? So im wondering where or what is worn to cause the movement. I understand the purpose of a clock spring. But would an aged of faulty clock spring create the feeling of a loose steering wheel? Or is there a bearing of some sort between the tilt and steering wheel that could be worn? Also I recall hearing about a sacrificial pin somewhere in the steering column that is to fail during an impact. Could it be the culprit? Sorry folks, I'm thinking out loud about all the possible culprits before I begin tearing it apart.
Thx
Darren

patdaly

92 would be the newer style column, right?

Clock spring can have no effect on slop, so that's out.

Not sure about a pin, but when you say slop, just the wheel or wheel and upper part of the column?

mknittle

There isn't really a pin it is plastic injected into grooves cut into the inner (solid) shaft through holes in the outer sleeve. I have never seen one come loose.
If I had to guess I would say the bearings were shot. I think if the steering wheel were that loose the splines would be so worn they wouldn't engage. .

cey800

More so the the wheel.
Not to say that there isn't a little movement in the upper part of the column itself.

cey800

So there's a bearing between the tilt and the clock spring?

mknittle

I didn't realize I is a tilt column. that brings one more thing that it could be.
I am not sure how the dodge tilt mechanism is mounted to the column. but on GM columns it is quite common for the mounting bolts to come loose. causing the symptoms you describe. There are 3 bearings in a three bearings in the tilt column 2 on the top and one at the bottom. I think they would all be under the famous clock spring.( mine is pre clockspring)

Edit, I checked the doge schematic for the dodge tilt and it is very similar to the GM column. And the tilt mechanism is possibly the culprit the culprit.There are 4 bolts that clamp a casting to a floating plate. if the bolts come just a little loose there can be a bunch of movement.

cey800

Appreciate it.
Any chance you could forward me a copy of the schematic?

mknittle

Just for fun My steering column credentials

anybody fab their own steering column? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

NJTman

Fwiw
Most steering column issues can be attributed to using the steering wheel to haul your fat butts into the truck. I grab the pillar to stabilize my entry. Read on these boards many years ago to NOT pull myself up into my truck for the end results are what you guys are talking about

samiam4

It is a GM made colum in your dodge.

Follow your GM service for tilt wheels.


M

Blue Goose

and this is why I left the running boards on mine. seen a lot of loose wheels/columns because of this.

mknittle

I know a guy that is 86years old that drives a lifted second gen with 34" tires. He has a Rubbermaid plastic step stool with a hole drilled in it for a small rope. when he gets out he lowers the stool with the rope.

ChrisLib

There is also a tension spring underneath the column lockplate that goes bad(at least I've had it happen on GM products I've owned). If yer gonna take it apart do yourself a huge favor and pick up a lockplate compression tool... Performance Tool W80649 - Lock Plate Tool | O'Reilly Auto Parts (Not an endorsement of oreilly..just showing the tool) it's about impossible to reassemble without it.

mknittle

X2 on the tool. I made one after doing a couple without it.

patdaly

Not a whole lot shown in the parts manual on this style column, decided to look into the FSM and voila, they say it is not designed to be serviced.

Here is the best info I can lay on you.