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Rear Main Seal Install

Old 04-28-2008, 11:05 PM
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Rear Main Seal Install

I took some pictures when I did my Rear Main seal.

This is the Kit from Cummins.
You get a
1.) seal driver(metal ring top right)
2.) Seal and Installation Sleeve(Bottom)
3.) A driver for rear gear box engines(not used top Left)

P/N for the kit is Crankshaft Seal Kit
PN# 4089324

I didn't do the rear cover Gasket but here is the P/N if you go that route.
Gasket Rear Cover
PN# 3938159

Removing the Old Seal


Carefully drill 2 1/8in holes 180 degrees apart. Screw in some sheetmetal screws. I used vise grips and a small pry bar. A slide hammer would work great as well. Mine came out rather easy.

Installing the new seal.

Clean is the key here. Seal goes on dry and clean. Wash your hands and/or find some gloves. wipe the area down good with some brakeleen or thinner. FSM says There are 2 types of seals. Ones with metal on the outside and ones with rubber. Mine was half rubber and half metal. Per The FSM Seals with Rubber on the outside circumference get coated with Soapy water. Seals with Metal on the outside circumference get loctite 277 or equiv. I used hylomar which was the equilvilent of my choice. Side the Installation sleeve on the Crank hub and push it on.

Driving the New seal Home


Once on the crank hub and lined up the best you can by hand use the driver to press the seal into the proper depth. Tap the driver with a mallet or plastic hammer(sorry no action shot) evenly all around til the driver sits flush with the seal housing(basically as far as it can go til you hear the driver hit metal). Take the driver out and your done. Put it all back together (Flywheel, clutch, Trans, Etc) and your ready for a leak check.
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do you happen to remember what the kit cost?
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I just replaced mine a couple days ago. i got it from cummins for $62.00. Mines didn't come with the white ring like pictured above. i didn't even need it so it wasn't a problem. I ordered 2 so i had an extra just incase.
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If your looking to get one i have one here i rather see it get used then just let it go to waste.
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Originally Posted by 77machomopar
I just replaced mine a couple days ago. i got it from cummins for $62.00. Mines didn't come with the white ring like pictured above. i didn't even need it so it wasn't a problem. I ordered 2 so i had an extra just incase.
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If your looking to get one i have one here i rather see it get used then just let it go to waste.
yea its leaking a little and i am going to be replacing the trans so i might as well.
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I may want to do my rear seal when I do my clutch just for piece of mind.
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taking the seal out

i tried the one in the picture and i scored the seal housing on both sides.
how do you repair the housing?
sorry to hi jack this topic but i do need to know if i can fix it without buying
a seal housing. thanks
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Smooth it out as best you can (no burrs sticking up) and put a dab of RTV in each score before you install the seal.

Haven't tried it but that's what I'd do if faced with the situation.
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Originally Posted by espanton
i tried the one in the picture and i scored the seal housing on both sides.
how do you repair the housing?
sorry to hi jack this topic but i do need to know if i can fix it without buying
a seal housing. thanks
Do what what all the tech's do. PERMATEX No.2. We put it on the crank flange and the inside of the bell housing....Once it sets up, your golden.....
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thanks guys! i will try it tomorrow
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If memory serves, instructions say that it needs to go in totally dry or it won't seal up. I think brake-clean or the equivalent is recommended on the crank surface.
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Yes, totally dry and oil free. Use brake kleen or electrical contact cleaner, not carb cleaner or anything else that leave a film.
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Originally Posted by Riflemanusmc
Do what what all the tech's do. PERMATEX No.2. We put it on the crank flange and the inside of the bell housing....Once it sets up, your golden.....
On the crank ONLY if your installing a speedy sleeve. Sorry...
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Could someone explain what keeps a metal chip from falling in the oil pan when you drill the holes to remove the old seal?

I have been bitten by the old mechanics trick of putting grease on the drill bit to hold the chips. It was a very expensing lesson (on a different vehicle).

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