Alternator 101
#1
Registered User
Thread Starter
Alternator 101
Alternator 101
http://dens-site.net/Dodge_CTD/1991....ams/Scan04.jpg
http://dens-site.net/Dodge_CTD/1991....ams/Scan05.jpg
Alternator 101
I'm hoping this information will help anyone that is having a high voltage/overcharging situation or the flickering volt meter at idle issue. I'm using the external regulator diagram for simplicity, but the troubleshooting procedure isn't much different with the regulator in the ECM.
1st lets understand how the alternator works. The field winding creates a magnetic field. The strength of that field is determined by how much current (amps) is flowing through the field coil and not the voltage applied to it. As the field winding rotates, the magnetic lines of force pass through the stator windings creating an electrical current.
The regulator controls the output voltage of the stator winding by controlling the amperage through the field winding. The regulator is a variable resistor in series to ground. The regulator measures the input voltage to it and adjusts the field coil resistance to ground to maintain a stable voltage regardless of the amperage load placed on the alternator.
So what goes wrong. Anything that changes the voltage regulators ability so sense battery voltage will change the output of the alternator. The common problems are bad grounds and a voltage drop to the regulator.
Over time, connections corrode or wear introducing resistance into the circuit that lowers voltage to the sensing circuit of the regulator. This lower voltage is interpreted as a low alternator output, so the regulator compensates. Sense the regulator can't see what's going on at the battery, it doesn't know it's being overcharged.
To find out if your regulator is running blind to battery voltage, with the engine running place a volt meter on the field winding J2 terminal (that would be the one closest to the large ground lug) and to ground. It should be the same voltage as the battery. If it is lower than battery voltage, there is your problem. There are several connectors, an auto shut down relay if equipped, and the ignition switch that can introduce a voltage dropping resistance to the field. A quick check it to jumper the alternator output to the J2 field terminal bypassing the ignition wiring.
If the voltage check doesn't show a problem, start cleaning grounds. There are a lot of them.
http://dens-site.net/Dodge_CTD/1991....ams/Scan04.jpg
http://dens-site.net/Dodge_CTD/1991....ams/Scan05.jpg
Alternator 101
I'm hoping this information will help anyone that is having a high voltage/overcharging situation or the flickering volt meter at idle issue. I'm using the external regulator diagram for simplicity, but the troubleshooting procedure isn't much different with the regulator in the ECM.
1st lets understand how the alternator works. The field winding creates a magnetic field. The strength of that field is determined by how much current (amps) is flowing through the field coil and not the voltage applied to it. As the field winding rotates, the magnetic lines of force pass through the stator windings creating an electrical current.
The regulator controls the output voltage of the stator winding by controlling the amperage through the field winding. The regulator is a variable resistor in series to ground. The regulator measures the input voltage to it and adjusts the field coil resistance to ground to maintain a stable voltage regardless of the amperage load placed on the alternator.
So what goes wrong. Anything that changes the voltage regulators ability so sense battery voltage will change the output of the alternator. The common problems are bad grounds and a voltage drop to the regulator.
Over time, connections corrode or wear introducing resistance into the circuit that lowers voltage to the sensing circuit of the regulator. This lower voltage is interpreted as a low alternator output, so the regulator compensates. Sense the regulator can't see what's going on at the battery, it doesn't know it's being overcharged.
To find out if your regulator is running blind to battery voltage, with the engine running place a volt meter on the field winding J2 terminal (that would be the one closest to the large ground lug) and to ground. It should be the same voltage as the battery. If it is lower than battery voltage, there is your problem. There are several connectors, an auto shut down relay if equipped, and the ignition switch that can introduce a voltage dropping resistance to the field. A quick check it to jumper the alternator output to the J2 field terminal bypassing the ignition wiring.
If the voltage check doesn't show a problem, start cleaning grounds. There are a lot of them.
The following users liked this post:
Jherrmann (03-14-2018)
#2
Registered User
FYI, My server returns;
Page Not Found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable. Please try the following:
If you typed the page address in the Address bar, make sure that it is spelled correctly.
Click the Back button in your browser to try another link.
Use a search engine like Google to look for information on the Internet.
Just my two cents, Mike.
Page Not Found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable. Please try the following:
If you typed the page address in the Address bar, make sure that it is spelled correctly.
Click the Back button in your browser to try another link.
Use a search engine like Google to look for information on the Internet.
Just my two cents, Mike.
#3
Registered User
Thread Starter
Interesting. Copied it directly for the FAQ section, electrical, 91.5 wiring diagrams. It works from there.
#4
Registered User
Thread Starter
Fixed it. That was strange.
#5
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: SW Pennsylvania - Greene County
Posts: 1,167
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
The first time you copied the links they were "forum abbreviated" links that were shortened to use less forum text posting space. The links were abbreviated because they had ..... inserted in the middle to shorten the link.
#6
Registered User
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
5.9Excursion
3rd Gen High Performance and Accessories (5.9L Only)
1
03-13-2008 07:08 AM
gsdog1
3rd Gen Engine and Drivetrain -> 2003-2007
2
08-03-2004 12:25 PM
PROSOUTH
3rd Gen High Performance and Accessories (5.9L Only)
27
01-27-2004 12:56 PM