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Towing 17000lbs with auto trans
So I am in the market for a 40' toy hauler. The one I have my eye on comes in at about 17000 lbs wet. My trans is the 48re auto in a 2007 4x4. Motor will most likely remain stock. At most, MAYBE a Smarty Jr. I have put on a turbo back exhaust to remove the cat (somebody tried to steal mine), and have a less restrictive muffler.
Before I ever tow this thing, I am putting in a triple disk converter/valve body, billet input shaft, a stronger flex plate, and a high capacity, deep trans pan. Question is. With these trans mods, should my trans be fine while towing this? I know a manual is the best choice, but that is not a option. |
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Should be fine.
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2004, 3500 LB,Laramie, 305/555, QC, 4X4, 48RE, 3.73's, |
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should be fine i have towed more than that on 35s i have a built tranny but still when it was stock it was good to, just drive it gentle no reason to hot rod a loaded truck
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2005 600HO 4x4 DRW Auto 6" skyjacker 3"body lift. custom rear diff guard. Welded on ROADARMOR bumper. 6"stacks built not bought straight piped. mp-8, AFE int, bypass oil filter. Full built DTT. , 10" SUB CUSTOM BOX. 65 gal stainless steel fuel tanks under bed(built not bought) + the stocker. 3 air horns, 4 gal air tank with hose outlet. AND MORE and yes i tow all the time NRA LIFE MEMBER GOD BLESS AMERICA |
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I would get a trans temp gauge installed.
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2004 Dodge QuadCab 4x4 3500 White Auto 305HP LongBed 85 Hp Predator Plug N Play,SP Boost Fooler, Bully Dog Power Pup, Ride Rite Air Bags, 2" Leveling Kit, Cragar Soft 8 Black, Shift Glow Boost,Pyro, and Trans Gauges. Triple Disc Torque Converter,Transgo Shift Kit, True Flow Air Filter, Gutted Silencer, 4" Down Tube and exhaust |
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X2.
Plus I'd look into getting gauges for boost, EGT, and fuel. Kris
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I just pulled 18,000 with mine and it was a big struggle ONLY because the stock converter was slipping/stalling so bad on takeoff. Once the truck got going it was perfectly fine though. With the mods you are looking at I would say you will be fine. A better converter is definitely on my list.....
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04 Green/ Silver Dodge Ram 2500 SLT,4x4,305/555HO,48RE,3:73s,Infinity Sound,MOPAR DVD,Fogzilla Mod,PowerWagon Rims w/ BFG AT 285s,KleenWheels,VA C3.2,DS Predator,HE351 Turbo,2nd Gen Intake,Westach gauges,Bilsteins,Imitation Trainhorns,Timbrens,4" Custom Exhaust w/ 6.7 Muffler+BullyDog 24" muffler,BHAF,ToneRingMod,Husky Mudflaps,Fumoto,Custom rear wheelwell liners,Tailgate Spoiler. " I'm not BOMBing this one! " |
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Even with my stocktrans, I'd hook that up and pull it with no worries.
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2003 4x4 2500 CTD Quad-Cab 48RE 10.5/4.10's My own Ram Air with Pro-Gaurd 7 drop in filter - Click for link Bilstein shock absorbers - They look better black! drivers seat mod - Click for link MOD FOR MILEAGE - 1991 Infiniti G20 / 25 MPG |
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I pull a 37ft in the mountains (about 15,500 wet). The truck is pretty much stock other then a Smarty on lvl 3. I have never had any trans issues. Seeing your is a toyhauler don't be afraid of putting it in 4 low if you are going slow. Pulling into sites crawling in 2 high gets the trans temps up really really fast. Depending on if you are near mountains, definatly consider an exhaust brake. I have thanked the EB gods more than once.
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06 3500 White Quadcab SLT. Auto, Autometer (EGT,Trans, boost), Jake brake, 4" Magnaflow, 5.5" intake tube, a bit-o-swiss and maybe a warranty effecting device. |
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I have a 40' Toy Hauler that comes in at 16500. I pulled it lots through out the remainder of the summer on my stocker. It pulls just fine. I will be going the Georend route here shortly.
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2004 Dodge Cummins 2500 SLT 4X4, 48RE, Smarty JR, S&B CAI, AirDog 2, Quad Boost Fooler, Di-Pricol EGT/Boost/Trans Temp/Fuel Press/Rail Press Gauges, Espar D5, Hankook 285/70/17 RF-10, Xenon Flares, Bilstein 5100, Putco Boss Bars, Rhino Liner, Husky liners, DC wheel liners, Killer JL Audio System, Roll N Lock cover, Power Tailgate lock, MPC Grill Guard, Mag Hytec/PML Trans Pan, Fr & Rr Diff Cover Future Mods:Georend 48RE Built |
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Wow, what does that kind of work cost? I would think thousands...
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I have a 40' Toy Hauler that comes in at 16500. I pulled it lots through out the remainder of the summer on my stocker. It pulls just fine. I will be going the Georend route here shortly.
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2004 Dodge Cummins 2500 SLT 4X4, 48RE, Smarty JR, S&B CAI, AirDog 2, Quad Boost Fooler, Di-Pricol EGT/Boost/Trans Temp/Fuel Press/Rail Press Gauges, Espar D5, Hankook 285/70/17 RF-10, Xenon Flares, Bilstein 5100, Putco Boss Bars, Rhino Liner, Husky liners, DC wheel liners, Killer JL Audio System, Roll N Lock cover, Power Tailgate lock, MPC Grill Guard, Mag Hytec/PML Trans Pan, Fr & Rr Diff Cover Future Mods:Georend 48RE Built |
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Thanks for the reply's. I will be putting gauges on it also. I have considered a Fass fuel filter/water separator also for the better filtration. But as far as engine mods go, I will probably just leave it stock. Like I said, MAYBE a Smarty Jr at the very most.
Another question. When putting is a lower stall,more efficient converter, higher pressure valve body. Aren't the rest of the clutch's and bands going to get allot more pressure put against them? Why wouldn't I want to up grade those? But no trans shop has recommended that I do that. I have heard of people "burning up" the clutches/bands. What causes this? My truck has 17000 miles on it right now. |
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DO your tranny mods, Very important. I use to tow a 14000lb dump trailer everyday for work. I Didn't ever think anything would happen to my tranny and then at 80000km the tranny died. 5000 bucks later I got a new one which is built with single disc converter and valve body etc. Dodge did not warrent my tranny because I had a Edge box, which had only been on there for a week runing lev 1. Thanks to Stupid Langley Chrysler and there Crappy service team!!! Anyways, I do not think you will need Billet shafts unless your planing to add some major power to your rig. But you might as well spent the money now in case you every decide to play with some power!!!
good luck
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REDSMOKE! 1st you see a RED Dodge and then all you see is MY SMOKE in UR Face!!!! 2005 Dodge Ram 3500 sport lamie Quad Cab Short Box Step Bar, Tinted out, Crome Bush Guard with KC lites, Airaid intake, 2.5 inch Revtec Leveling Kit, BDS Shocks, 35 inch tires, air horn, Edge juice with Attitude programer, AFE 4inch Exhaust, High proformance Tranny with Single disc torque Converter, Valve Body (soon to be updated to Mutidisc converter and Billet shafts), CAN'T Wait for TWINS!! |
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If you have 4.10 gears you will be good to go. If you do upgrade the tranny don't get a real tight converter, you will have a hard time getting the loads moving. Pulling that weight you will need a billet input shaft, with heavy weights the TC lockup will snap it. A good VB with increased pressures will help the clutches hold together. A couple of things you need to get though, band strut, anchor, etc. Talk with Dave at Goerend, he will hook you up.
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2004.5 Dodge 3500 Dually 4x2 Quadcab, 325/600, 4.10 gears with LS, 48RE, Banks Monster Exhaust, Banks High Ram Intake, ISSPRO Gauges, Fuel Pressure, EGT, Boost, Trans Temp, 3 gauge Pillar mount, single steering colum mount, AFE Stage 1 with PGM7, Amsoil, Timbrens, Brakesmart,Bilsteins,Quad X2 Std.(Pressure Only [off]),HTT 62/71/13ss,Smarty,AirDog 100, Opie's Bypass,Goerend TC (15 blade left cut), VB, Billet Input shaft, flexplate |
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410 gear would help, I only have 373 so that was probably a big issue with me.
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REDSMOKE! 1st you see a RED Dodge and then all you see is MY SMOKE in UR Face!!!! 2005 Dodge Ram 3500 sport lamie Quad Cab Short Box Step Bar, Tinted out, Crome Bush Guard with KC lites, Airaid intake, 2.5 inch Revtec Leveling Kit, BDS Shocks, 35 inch tires, air horn, Edge juice with Attitude programer, AFE 4inch Exhaust, High proformance Tranny with Single disc torque Converter, Valve Body (soon to be updated to Mutidisc converter and Billet shafts), CAN'T Wait for TWINS!! |
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