Things to do to the motor while I have it out - Dodge Diesel

whiskeyrichard · 01-27-2009, 09:36 AM

I am pulling the motor from my truck this week. I am going to be moving it from the D truck in my sig to the W truck in my sig. What things should I do to it while I have it out?

Here is my current list:

1) steam clean
2) KDP
3) EGT probe (I know I can do this with the motor in too, but it will be nice and easy with it on a stand)

It turns out, HF had an engine stand that can hold 2000 lbs for 100 dollars. I picked it up and am going to make a bracket to hold the motor from the front as well as the back. Should keep it plenty sturdy.

Thanks,
Russ

Crazy Matt · 01-27-2009, 09:37 AM

Id recommend maybe stuffing a new camshaft in it.

bigragu · 01-27-2009, 09:45 AM

Change the oil pan gasket, the rear main seal, front seal(when you do KDP) and check carefully for any other leaks you may have. Upgrade the fan(someone said dodge came out with a more efficient fan type) the belts, T-stat, and all your hoses(every one of them). If you plan on putting in guages, depending on type, plan ahead if there are any tough spots to get to for sensor installation.
Oh, yeah, paint the engine!!

PapeCAT · 01-27-2009, 09:57 AM

Great Recommendations

I didn't do all of the above , just the bare minimum... I had to get it out of the garage and into the crew. I have been traveling so much I didn't have time to do all that stuff. But yeah check for leaks. Definitely Front and Rear Crank Seals.Fans and belts can go on anytime, hoses.. But if you wanted to do a pan gasket that would be the only time to do it... Paint and dress n polish would be bling yah. Pyro drill for the manifold yes...

brainfade · 01-27-2009, 10:51 AM

If you have any plans for a piston lift pump it would be easier now rather than leaning over the fender. Otherwise it's a pretty good list so far.

whiskeyrichard · 01-27-2009, 11:19 AM

1) steam clean
2) kdp
3) EGT probe
4) leak check
5) front and rear seals
6) piston lift pump (thanks for that one...I would have forgotten
7) t-stat (another one I would have forgotten)
8) belts and hoses

I'd love to take the time to paint the motor, but I will likely not have it. Maybe I'll just clean up the valve covers and polish them or something....I supposed I should have a little bling

Thanks for the help,
Russ

dstad · 01-27-2009, 11:34 AM

marine pistons, lost of paint and chrome and a cam, what about that about that freeze plug in the back id get that one that bolts up

apwatson50 · 01-27-2009, 01:15 PM

If the motor was in front of a manual tranny, or is going to be in front of one, I would at least put a new thrust bearing in it.

Also a new rear cam plug.

bigragu · 01-27-2009, 02:17 PM

Also, new motor mounts should be on the list, along check the frame areas in the engine compartment of the truck you wil end up using(the W250) before the engine is back in. Look for cracks, like where the power steering is mounted. I read somewhere that that area is susceptible to cracking. Weld while you have access.

If you can swing it $$$ wise, O-ring the head and upgrade the head studs, upgrade the valve springs. When doing the oil pan, plan for another oil return port for if you ever run twins one day. Look in the sticky or do a search on twins. BC847 did twins and he has pics on his install, showing the oil pan work in great detail.

PapeCAT · 01-27-2009, 04:02 PM

Definitely new Throwout bearing! I agree. Might as well grab a new clutch off ebay sachs for 400 and resurface the flywheel, boring out the center for the ball bearing input shaft bearing. I did those ones as well as the lift pump. Cutting the insulation was a breeze with it out. It would've been a lot harder IN the truck.

Crossy's son · 01-27-2009, 04:11 PM

The only internal mod i'd do to it, is a cam from PDR. like a quickspool, there like $400 and get you up to 2mpg better from what i says, faster spool up and stuff

If you shooting to make a fun truck and don't know what you'll be doing in the future for performance but you want a good running truck..... go ahead and pull the head off and have it sent out, port/polish work and get it o-ringed. then order a marine head gasket and install the head with some studs and you'll be good to go

. You'll have a more bulletproof motor ready for HIGH hp.

dstad · 01-27-2009, 04:30 PM

Oh Yea Firerings And The 625+head Studs Becacuse U Never Know

whiskeyrichard · 01-27-2009, 04:40 PM

One thing I know for sure: none of you guys have hacked into my online banking and looked at my balances!! sheesh.

You all have me spending over 1k bucks already.

I like all the ideas though. I am going to go back to the 'till' tonight and see what I can come up with.

Man!

Russ

Featherman · 01-27-2009, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiskeyrichard

One thing I know for sure: none of you guys have hacked into my online banking and looked at my balances!! sheesh.

You all have me spending over 1k bucks already.

I like all the ideas though. I am going to go back to the 'till' tonight and see what I can come up with.

Man!

Russ

You asked...............

Crossy's son · 01-27-2009, 07:12 PM

WhiskeyRichard, you had to have seen all these answers coming. LOL

01-27-2009, 09:37 AM	#2
Crazy Matt Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North Idaho Posts: 385 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Id recommend maybe stuffing a new camshaft in it. __________________ 1970 war wagon with small dents '90 cummins,with to many mods - needs more power again

01-27-2009, 09:45 AM	#3
bigragu Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 808 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Change the oil pan gasket, the rear main seal, front seal(when you do KDP) and check carefully for any other leaks you may have. Upgrade the fan(someone said dodge came out with a more efficient fan type) the belts, T-stat, and all your hoses(every one of them). If you plan on putting in guages, depending on type, plan ahead if there are any tough spots to get to for sensor installation. Oh, yeah, paint the engine!! __________________ 1993 W250 AUTO. MODS: 3200 G-SPRING- 2 TURNS ON FUEL SCREW. PLUNGER LP. PODS. DTT TRANNY. PDR HYBRID HX35 16CM2. SMOKEY PIN. STAN'S 4" EXHST. TRANNY COOLER W/ FAN & T-STAT. AUTOMETER BOOST, PYRO, FUEL/OIL PRESSURE, & TRANNY GUAGES. ISSPRO TACH. FILTER MINDER. MAG-HYTEC TRANNY PAN/DIFF COVERS. BULLYDOG/ATS PROPANE & SNOW'S WATER INJECTION #2. COOL DOWN TIMER. HTT 3 PIECE MANIFOLD. AUX.TRANNY & COOLANT FILTERS. KDP TABBED. 5" INTAKE. 7.3 PSD I.C. 3" COOLERTUBZ

01-27-2009, 09:57 AM	#4
PapeCAT Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Orangevale, CA Posts: 2,252 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Great Recommendations I didn't do all of the above , just the bare minimum... I had to get it out of the garage and into the crew. I have been traveling so much I didn't have time to do all that stuff. But yeah check for leaks. Definitely Front and Rear Crank Seals.Fans and belts can go on anytime, hoses.. But if you wanted to do a pan gasket that would be the only time to do it... Paint and dress n polish would be bling yah. Pyro drill for the manifold yes... __________________ 2012 3500 CCLB SRW G56 4x4 1973 Ford Courier Crawler

01-27-2009, 10:51 AM	#5
brainfade Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 330 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	If you have any plans for a piston lift pump it would be easier now rather than leaning over the fender. Otherwise it's a pretty good list so far. __________________ '91.5 W250, G360, 4.10's, Big, Red and Stinky. Pyro, boost, BHAF, 16cm, pump lightly leaned on. Timing + 1/4 in. Now smoking with Stan's 4 in. turbo back and breathing with an HTT stage IV. Disks on the rear and Hydroboost in the works. "The mother of all parking brakes" on the driveline with 290,000 some odd miles. Hey, where'd those PODs go? Holy Cow! They're in the engine!

01-27-2009, 11:19 AM	#6
whiskeyrichard Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 126 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	updated list 1) steam clean 2) kdp 3) EGT probe 4) leak check 5) front and rear seals 6) piston lift pump (thanks for that one...I would have forgotten 7) t-stat (another one I would have forgotten) 8) belts and hoses I'd love to take the time to paint the motor, but I will likely not have it. Maybe I'll just clean up the valve covers and polish them or something....I supposed I should have a little bling Thanks for the help, Russ

01-27-2009, 11:34 AM	#7
dstad Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: OREGON Posts: 468 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	marine pistons, lost of paint and chrome and a cam, what about that about that freeze plug in the back id get that one that bolts up __________________ 96 3500 2wd, ddp 2’s, 3kgsk, #10 plate. Hybrid over s400 twins, bd full roller bearing trans, DiPricol gauges, bd torq loc and tow loc, Pac brake 4” inline, Straight 4” duals, Aux trans cooler with fan, Firestone ride rite with on board air, gauges, DSS, Centramatics, Maghytec .

01-27-2009, 01:15 PM	#8
apwatson50 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Golden, Colorado Posts: 2,865 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	If the motor was in front of a manual tranny, or is going to be in front of one, I would at least put a new thrust bearing in it. Also a new rear cam plug. __________________ 92 Black W250 295K, getrag, valair 13" ceramic clutch, dana 80 3.54, HX40, DDP3 injectors, high pressure piston LP, custom IP, M&H M2 fuel pin, PS charge air cooler, 4 in exhaust w/ brake, gauges(and lots of them) Leece Neville power. 89 FUMMINS F350 4x4 crew cab, VE 12V, A518 trans, ford np205 t-case, PS cooler, hybrid HX35, low pressure piston LP http://s218.photobucket.com/albums/c...Truck%20stuff/

01-27-2009, 02:17 PM	#9
bigragu Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 808 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Also, new motor mounts should be on the list, along check the frame areas in the engine compartment of the truck you wil end up using(the W250) before the engine is back in. Look for cracks, like where the power steering is mounted. I read somewhere that that area is susceptible to cracking. Weld while you have access. If you can swing it $$$ wise, O-ring the head and upgrade the head studs, upgrade the valve springs. When doing the oil pan, plan for another oil return port for if you ever run twins one day. Look in the sticky or do a search on twins. BC847 did twins and he has pics on his install, showing the oil pan work in great detail.

01-27-2009, 04:02 PM	#10
PapeCAT Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Orangevale, CA Posts: 2,252 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Definitely new Throwout bearing! I agree. Might as well grab a new clutch off ebay sachs for 400 and resurface the flywheel, boring out the center for the ball bearing input shaft bearing. I did those ones as well as the lift pump. Cutting the insulation was a breeze with it out. It would've been a lot harder IN the truck.

01-27-2009, 04:11 PM	#11
Crossy's son Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Plainfield, New Jersey Posts: 7,467 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	The only internal mod i'd do to it, is a cam from PDR. like a quickspool, there like $400 and get you up to 2mpg better from what i says, faster spool up and stuff If you shooting to make a fun truck and don't know what you'll be doing in the future for performance but you want a good running truck..... go ahead and pull the head off and have it sent out, port/polish work and get it o-ringed. then order a marine head gasket and install the head with some studs and you'll be good to go . You'll have a more bulletproof motor ready for HIGH hp. __________________ 91.5 W250 4x4 5 speed LE Red/Grey, 270k miles, 3.54's w/ Power-Lok, 4" Exhaust, BHAF, DennyT Pin, 3200 Spring, Piston LP, Power screw maxed, HX35/12cm, DAP 5x14 Injectors, Valair 13" 550hp K/C clutch, 4" Skyjacker soft-ride lift, 315/75R16 Mickey Thompson Baja ATZ tires, 16-17 MPG 89 D150 3.9L TBI/A999 Auto, beater while ^^^ gets restored Attending LTI for Diesel Truck Technology, graduate December 2013

01-27-2009, 04:30 PM	#12
dstad Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: OREGON Posts: 468 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Oh Yea Firerings And The 625+head Studs Becacuse U Never Know

01-27-2009, 04:40 PM	#13
whiskeyrichard Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 126 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	holy crap One thing I know for sure: none of you guys have hacked into my online banking and looked at my balances!! sheesh. You all have me spending over 1k bucks already. I like all the ideas though. I am going to go back to the 'till' tonight and see what I can come up with. Man! Russ

01-27-2009, 07:12 PM	#15
Crossy's son Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Plainfield, New Jersey Posts: 7,467 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	WhiskeyRichard, you had to have seen all these answers coming. LOL

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