Springs - Dodge Diesel

briankk · 06-14-2007, 11:48 PM

I have an '89 D250HD, and it rides like, um, a truck.. This thing has 8 spring leaves on each side in the rear, is this stock, or do I have some kind of HD setup? I bought the manual from Gino's, it admits there are leaves back there, doesn't say how many...

jjdiesel1990 · 06-14-2007, 11:51 PM

i have a 90 d250 and i defidently don't have that many

dieselJon · 06-15-2007, 05:26 AM

I have 8 PLUS overloads on the back. If you are looking to get a better ride, some members have flipped 1 or 2 to get softer rides. Or th more expensive route, air bags.

That is all I know.

Jon

whereswaldo250 · 06-15-2007, 11:10 AM

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I have 8 PLUS overloads on the back.

WOW dieseljon and I though mine was rough, I have 7 in the rears and currently right now I am trying to find some factory overloads.

andyr354 · 06-15-2007, 11:27 AM

Since you are a 2wd you can get away with pulling some leafs out. Pulling them on a 4wd with the tall lift blocks adds some axle wrap.

imfixinmopars · 06-15-2007, 11:38 AM

an old timer told me years ago to pour used oil on the springs to help with the friction and wear,thats before the tree hugger days

,so...my truck has 7 each side,rides pretty good empty,and really poor loaded.i have air bags too,adding air help the ride,but not much.yea i dont understand it either.you would think that load it would ride better,oh well.

andyr354 · 06-15-2007, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by imfixinmopars

an old timer told me years ago to pour used oil on the springs to help with the friction and wear,thats before the tree hugger days

,so...my truck has 7 each side,rides pretty good empty,and really poor loaded.i have air bags too,adding air help the ride,but not much.yea i don't understand it either.you would think that load it would ride better,oh well.

that is backwards. My truck is extremely stiff unloaded, back tires jump off the road on big bumps it feels like! Put 750 or so pounds on the receiver hitch and it rides nice though. The rear never really squats down any it just lifts the front.

QIK2D · 06-15-2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by imfixinmopars

an old timer told me years ago to pour used oil on the springs to help with the friction and wear,thats before the tree hugger days

,so...my truck has 7 each side,rides pretty good empty,and really poor loaded.i have air bags too,adding air help the ride,but not much.yea i dont understand it either.you would think that load it would ride better,oh well.

sounds like your springs are sprung. might want to look into having them re-arched. all the first gens i've been in ride like a tank when unloaded.

daryl

LOGAN · 06-15-2007, 01:56 PM

i think someone welded mine solid at the factory, LOL, cause mine rides like crap empty, loaded it rides great, put a bobcat on a bumper hitch trailer and a load of tools in the bed and it rides like a cadillac.

rbrettctd · 06-15-2007, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LOGAN

i think someone welded mine solid at the factory, LOL, cause mine rides like crap empty, loaded it rides great, put a bobcat on a bumper hitch trailer and a load of tools in the bed and it rides like a cadillac.

Thats how mine is...how they should be. It rides rough empty because our trucks are so light on the rear, taht theres nothing to hold them down when ya hit big bumps. Get a little weight back there, and youre just sailing along.

dieselJon · 06-15-2007, 05:09 PM

A guy I know about bolted about 500 pounds of tractor weights underneath the bed. Everyone says it rides real nice now. Plus he has all the bed space too.

Jon

b1eric · 06-15-2007, 06:19 PM

My 92 W250 has 8 leafson each side. I went acrosse the scale at the junkyard with 5720lbs in the box, I love my Dodge. My 48 flatfender power wagon has 14 leafs with another 6 in the overload stack rides great hahaha!

whereswaldo250 · 06-15-2007, 07:15 PM

When I do find some Stick overload springs will I need to make any changes at all or is it just a direct bolt on? Reason I'm asking is because I do not want to change out the existing spring pack that I have now.

Thanks WW

andyr354 · 06-20-2007, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rbrettctd

It rides rough empty because our trucks are so light on the rear, taht theres nothing to hold them down when ya hit big bumps. Get a little weight back there, and youre just sailing along.

Thats no joke, I weighed my truck a while back. Was around 6500lbs and right around 2K was supported by the rear axle. I didn't write down the exact numbers.

Micaiahfied · 06-20-2007, 03:58 PM

i just brouth home a truck that has 10 on either side in the back and none are overloads, all of them are in play all of the time! guy said he bought them at a salvage yard of a 1st gen dually... has the reciept for the rearch and install. you want to know how it rides? when my friend and i got back he was in the hospital the next day... it had broken loose some kidney stones that were forming in his kindneys! i told him he owes me since they were still fairly small and weren't allowed to get bigger, lol. 2300+ miles home... it was a LOOONGGG ride

06-15-2007, 05:26 AM	#3
dieselJon Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Dixon, IL Posts: 1,887 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	I have 8 PLUS overloads on the back. If you are looking to get a better ride, some members have flipped 1 or 2 to get softer rides. Or th more expensive route, air bags. That is all I know. Jon __________________ 1992 W250 G360~ Wife calls it Satans' Lavatory

06-15-2007, 11:27 AM	#5
andyr354 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Northern KS Posts: 818 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Since you are a 2wd you can get away with pulling some leafs out. Pulling them on a 4wd with the tall lift blocks adds some axle wrap. __________________ 93 W250 Clubcab, LE, getrag 5spd, 3.55s, straight pipe, Isspro guages,BHAF, KDP dead, fuel screw 1 turn past collar, Old Smokey fuel pin, timing 1/8", 18.5cm, 30lbs boost, 220K miles.

06-15-2007, 11:38 AM	#6
imfixinmopars Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 23 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	an old timer told me years ago to pour used oil on the springs to help with the friction and wear,thats before the tree hugger days ,so...my truck has 7 each side,rides pretty good empty,and really poor loaded.i have air bags too,adding air help the ride,but not much.yea i dont understand it either.you would think that load it would ride better,oh well. __________________ 92 350 dually 2wd,"ol stinky",airbags,pump tweeked,getrag,swiss'd airbox,rad support,lower grill,4.10/215's,straight 3" exh,runs 11.40's 1/4 mi,just kiddin' ...smile,serious sucks 03 d-max,edge,juice,4"exh,air intake,maybe more? 89 k2500 86 gmc c70 dumpy 69 newport survior 69 dart gts 383 4spd 5-70 road runners heavy equipment,loaders,bobcats,ect bunch of mopar stuff,and looking for more{sickness}

06-15-2007, 01:56 PM	#9
LOGAN Muted User Join Date: May 2007 Location: SOUTHCENTRAL OHIO Posts: 537 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	i think someone welded mine solid at the factory, LOL, cause mine rides like crap empty, loaded it rides great, put a bobcat on a bumper hitch trailer and a load of tools in the bed and it rides like a cadillac. __________________ UNITED STATES MILITARY: ESTABLISHING PEACE THROUGH SUPERIOR FIREPOWER SINCE 1776 THE FEW, THE PROUD, AND THE VE POWERED 1990 D250, RC LB, 2WD, 5.9 TOWER OF POWER, 727, SEVERAL TURNS OF THE FUEL AND SMOKE SCREW, NO AIR BOX, STAR WHEEL AT THE BOTTOM, NO THROTTLE STOP, NO AFC SPRING, PIN TO THE FRONT, STRAIGHT PIPED, COBALT BLUE VALVE COVERS AND LETTERING, 16X8 WELD SCORPIO V'S WRAPPED IN 265/75/16 FIRESTONE A/T'S, MORE POWER WILL COME SHORTLY.......

06-15-2007, 06:19 PM	#12
b1eric Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Western Wisconsin Posts: 48 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	My 92 W250 has 8 leafson each side. I went acrosse the scale at the junkyard with 5720lbs in the box, I love my Dodge. My 48 flatfender power wagon has 14 leafs with another 6 in the overload stack rides great hahaha! __________________ 2005 2500 4x4 6spd 4dr long box Lone Star bumpers, TS MPD monitor, muffler delete, otherwise stock. Sold-1992 w250 5spd, Pods, bhaf, custom ground fuel pin, starwheel full down,fuel screw in 3 1/2 turns, Ip maxed toward head PS 62/12, 4 1/2 inch exhaust, 3200 spring, Autometer pyro,boost,tach, pull cable, sbc con-fe, snow stage 2 water/meth 376/851 #2 only 1948 b1 Power Wagon 1997 H-D Fatboy custom Guns kill people like spoons made Rosie O'Donnel fat!

06-14-2007, 11:51 PM	#2
jjdiesel1990 Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Northeastern Ohio Posts: 261 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	i have a 90 d250 and i defidently don't have that many

06-15-2007, 05:09 PM	#11
dieselJon Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Dixon, IL Posts: 1,887 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	A guy I know about bolted about 500 pounds of tractor weights underneath the bed. Everyone says it rides real nice now. Plus he has all the bed space too. Jon

06-15-2007, 07:15 PM	#13
whereswaldo250 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,526 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	When I do find some Stick overload springs will I need to make any changes at all or is it just a direct bolt on? Reason I'm asking is because I do not want to change out the existing spring pack that I have now. Thanks WW

06-20-2007, 03:58 PM	#15
Micaiahfied Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Springfield, TN Posts: 1,737 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	i just brouth home a truck that has 10 on either side in the back and none are overloads, all of them are in play all of the time! guy said he bought them at a salvage yard of a 1st gen dually... has the reciept for the rearch and install. you want to know how it rides? when my friend and i got back he was in the hospital the next day... it had broken loose some kidney stones that were forming in his kindneys! i told him he owes me since they were still fairly small and weren't allowed to get bigger, lol. 2300+ miles home... it was a LOOONGGG ride __________________ 1991 W350 SRW, 36" cab stretch, NV4500. 4.10 lsd. 61k. 2nd gen. seats, gauges. pump tweaks. PODs. TIMING. 12cmWG. HTT Stage III. Water Methonol. BHAF. #2 311.5hp 723.8tq WM 372.5hp 837.1tq Past trucks: 1992 D250 CC Auto, 1992 W250 CC 5spd, 1991 W250 Auto, 1993 W250 NV4500, 1993 W250 auto, 1991.5 W250 auto, 1992 D350 auto dually, 1992 D250 CC Auto, 1985 D350 4-door auto dually (gasser)...

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