Smarty Tuner Now available in the DTR Perfromance Shop! - Page 4 - Dodge Diesel

DECEPTiON21 · 05-30-2007, 04:08 PM

Where's the fun in that? After I lift my truck, I will be ordering one of these promptly.

Sirdrakejr · 04-10-2008, 12:50 AM

I've been gone. Is this thread dead and another going in it's place?
Frank

Floorman · 02-14-2009, 12:15 PM

well we are a club correct? shouldn't there be some kind of discount over the average joe? ie sams or bj s, costco etc

AlpineRAM · 02-14-2009, 01:55 PM

If I recall it correctly the smarty may only be sold for a minimum price.
And the "profit" of the shop goes to keeping this site free.
I do shop here for this specific reason- I saved a lot of $$$ (well in my case €€€) by reading and asking questions here.

Just my 2c

AlpineRAM

Lary Ellis (Top) · 02-14-2009, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floorman

well we are a club correct? shouldn't there be some kind of discount over the average joe? ie sams or bj s, costco etc

Yes we are a FREE club, it costs money to belong to Sams, Bj's or Costco. I sell them at the LOWEST allowed pricing plus I offer free shipping to the lower 48 states.

Harvie · 02-15-2009, 02:30 PM

American Icon, Schwinn Bicycle company had "suggested retail pricing" that was later determined to be "price fixing". Cost their heirs the entire company...

Anytime a company dictates to a reseller, pricing levels, those companies are skating on real thin ice.... These companies do it to try and protect their resellerers profit level and as a reason for the high initial "buy in". These same companies will not restock a reseller that sells below their "established" price level.

It used to be that a company with more funds and inventory, better service and stock levels could sell for higher prices, now the companies making stuff try to "protect" the guy working out of his garage with a website.. Very sad marketing tool...

These same companies never understand that the market determines price levels and companies that don't comply WILL dissappear.. price protection or not....

Administrator · 02-15-2009, 03:24 PM

Hate to tell ya, but Mads isn't going out of business anytime soon. In addition, those policies have protected many a buyer from scammers on sites such as eBay etc who will sell, then never support the product after the sale. If you don't like the policy, buy another product. It's that simple.

Harvie · 02-16-2009, 08:33 AM

I have never bought a product expecting it to fail. I have never bought a product based upon its warranty.

That is what pre purchase research is meant to eliminate.

If a company needs to protect me from scammers, I do not need that extra expense, they build and add into, the cost.

Sorta like taking full responsibility, for ALL my own actions...

and as for: "If you don't like the policy, buy another product." I will find someone who can not figure out how to use it and get it from them, at a substantial discount...

There are many many ways to skin the same cat...

Administrator · 02-17-2009, 06:48 AM

Then feel free to go do so

BEARHUNTER · 02-21-2009, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJMurvin

I just returned from a towing trip (10k lb fifth wheel) in the Eastern Sierras and would be interested in making just a bit more power. I worry about warranty consequences (please save the "you play, you pay" comments). I have 4 yrs and 37k miles left on my DC powertrain warrantly and 67k miles left on the Cummins warranty. I hate to risk those for a few HP.

So, I had a Power Programmer III on my Ford 7.3. This sounds similar except the PPIII actually downloaded and stored the stock program. Hypertech also claimed that dealers cannot detect them. But, there is that one case . . . truck completely dies and you can't reload the stock program. Then what?

Life is full of risks you take em or you dont. I was dead set against a programer because of warranty issues. Then I thought, "its my

truck and If I want a programer im getting one"...Im so glad I did, smarty really is worth the money. The dead truck situation is realistic but I bet it does not happen that often.

Now I said this, it will happen to me

Jaxom · 03-25-2009, 01:34 AM

Now that Smarty Jr. has been around a while, what are the real world numbers?
In particular, what kind of fuel economy increases are folks seeing?
Thanks.

02-14-2009, 12:15 PM	#48
Floorman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Garner, North Carolina Posts: 392 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	well we are a club correct? shouldn't there be some kind of discount over the average joe? ie sams or bj s, costco etc __________________ 2001 3500 ctd single wheel 3:54s lthr loaded afe, quadzilla, goerend trans, isspros, 4inch mbrp, hx 40 fass, alarm, dvd. 343/718 248,300 2000 ctd lthr loaded k&n ,ez 3.55s 304,863 all work done by (mcmopar)

02-14-2009, 01:55 PM	#49
AlpineRAM Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Austria Europe Posts: 2,254 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	If I recall it correctly the smarty may only be sold for a minimum price. And the "profit" of the shop goes to keeping this site free. I do shop here for this specific reason- I saved a lot of $$$ (well in my case €€€) by reading and asking questions here. Just my 2c AlpineRAM __________________ On Vacation at the beauty farm: 98.5 lb 2500 auto. 4wd, Smarty, DTT 89% TC, VB, Masterkit... 4"DPP aluminized ..Scotty 2 , Rods Pod .DonMs EDMs, ARP 12mm studs PIAA 530. DSS, some Luke's links, 3/8" fuel hose from inside the in-tank module to the Holley, 3/8" to the filter, Wildcat bigline kit Clear lense aftermarket headlights, Bilstein BE5-2549& BE5-2550 The inofficial smarty update guide for download Daily driver: 97 Toyota Carina E Turbodiesel 2.0 L 83 hp Station

02-15-2009, 02:30 PM	#51
Harvie Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 90 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	American Icon, Schwinn Bicycle company had "suggested retail pricing" that was later determined to be "price fixing". Cost their heirs the entire company... Anytime a company dictates to a reseller, pricing levels, those companies are skating on real thin ice.... These companies do it to try and protect their resellerers profit level and as a reason for the high initial "buy in". These same companies will not restock a reseller that sells below their "established" price level. It used to be that a company with more funds and inventory, better service and stock levels could sell for higher prices, now the companies making stuff try to "protect" the guy working out of his garage with a website.. Very sad marketing tool... These same companies never understand that the market determines price levels and companies that don't comply WILL dissappear.. price protection or not.... __________________ 09 3500 SRW 6.7 6spd SB quad 24K off sticker..... Richard Head could not shift std trans..... CTDs since 94 a million + miles and rolling...

02-15-2009, 03:24 PM	#52
Administrator Founder / Webmaster Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,574 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Hate to tell ya, but Mads isn't going out of business anytime soon. In addition, those policies have protected many a buyer from scammers on sites such as eBay etc who will sell, then never support the product after the sale. If you don't like the policy, buy another product. It's that simple. __________________ . . . . ALL AIRDOG FUEL PRODUCTS ON SALE, CLICK HERE!

03-25-2009, 01:34 AM	#56
Jaxom Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: S.E Michigan Posts: 250 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Now that Smarty Jr. has been around a while, what are the real world numbers? In particular, what kind of fuel economy increases are folks seeing? Thanks. __________________ Jerry Current: 2010 3500 Dually, Laramie, Austin Tan w/ Brown & Beige interior. B&W Turnover G/N. Dually Depot fuel tank Soon: Rhino Lined, Raptor Stainless Steel Nerf Bars, MyGig Lockpick. Gone: 2006 Flame Red MegaCab 2500, but not forgotten.

05-30-2007, 04:08 PM	#46
DECEPTiON21 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tucson Posts: 256 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Where's the fun in that? After I lift my truck, I will be ordering one of these promptly.

04-10-2008, 12:50 AM	#47
Sirdrakejr Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 39 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	I've been gone. Is this thread dead and another going in it's place? Frank

02-16-2009, 08:33 AM	#53
Harvie Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 90 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	I have never bought a product expecting it to fail. I have never bought a product based upon its warranty. That is what pre purchase research is meant to eliminate. If a company needs to protect me from scammers, I do not need that extra expense, they build and add into, the cost. Sorta like taking full responsibility, for ALL my own actions... and as for: "If you don't like the policy, buy another product." I will find someone who can not figure out how to use it and get it from them, at a substantial discount... There are many many ways to skin the same cat...

02-17-2009, 06:48 AM	#54
Administrator Founder / Webmaster Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,574 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Then feel free to go do so

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