California bus crash kills 10 after FedEx truck collision led to explosions
04-13-2014, 06:31 AM
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California bus crash kills 10 after FedEx truck collision led to explosions
We had a horrific accident up in Northern California on Friday.
Several of these students were from our local schools.
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?sec...rticle-9500083
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...#axzz2ylDMGz5k
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/04/12...s-truck-crash/
Just terrible.
Jim
Several of these students were from our local schools.
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?sec...rticle-9500083
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...#axzz2ylDMGz5k
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/04/12...s-truck-crash/
Just terrible.
Jim
04-13-2014, 07:29 AM
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Man, that sucks....
My thoughts to the families involved.
Jim,
Did that highway have a center divider ?
The reason I ask is that this "toilet of a state" finally, after decades of crossover deaths, instituted a plan to install center dividers on most of the highways that could accommodate them. Unfortunately, not all can have them due to size constraints, but a lot of them now have the metal girder style center dividers. Although not as secure as concrete dividers, they provided a little bit of comfort to driving here. If a big rig is going fast enough, the metal dividers slow them down, but don't necessarily stop them from traversing into the oncoming lanes.
Sad.... really sad about those poor people in the bus.
My thoughts to the families involved.
Jim,
Did that highway have a center divider ?
The reason I ask is that this "toilet of a state" finally, after decades of crossover deaths, instituted a plan to install center dividers on most of the highways that could accommodate them. Unfortunately, not all can have them due to size constraints, but a lot of them now have the metal girder style center dividers. Although not as secure as concrete dividers, they provided a little bit of comfort to driving here. If a big rig is going fast enough, the metal dividers slow them down, but don't necessarily stop them from traversing into the oncoming lanes.
Sad.... really sad about those poor people in the bus.
04-13-2014, 03:24 PM
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Here in the Red, er North Star State, they're putting guard rails right up against the left lane of one way or the other. If you spin out on the frequent ice, instead of going 30 feet into the ditch out of harms way and hanging it up on the fence, you bounce and spin back into traffic for a second chance at death or dismemberment.
I swear, our civil engineers stay awake at night trying to figure out how to get the body count up. Case in point, they put in a 4 lane bypass around Cambridge MN. The South Main Street intersection had main street curving right up to the intersection, 65MPH hwy 65 S curved through the intersection, two busy roads ran parallel to this mess, and they put in no signals. I think 9 people died in fierce crashes in a year before they put signals in. Even with the semaphores, if you're not paying attention, you can really get confused, especially at night.
I swear, our civil engineers stay awake at night trying to figure out how to get the body count up. Case in point, they put in a 4 lane bypass around Cambridge MN. The South Main Street intersection had main street curving right up to the intersection, 65MPH hwy 65 S curved through the intersection, two busy roads ran parallel to this mess, and they put in no signals. I think 9 people died in fierce crashes in a year before they put signals in. Even with the semaphores, if you're not paying attention, you can really get confused, especially at night.
04-13-2014, 03:53 PM
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Man, that sucks....
My thoughts to the families involved.
Jim,
Did that highway have a center divider ?
The reason I ask is that this "toilet of a state" finally, after decades of crossover deaths, instituted a plan to install center dividers on most of the highways that could accommodate them. Unfortunately, not all can have them due to size constraints, but a lot of them now have the metal girder style center dividers. Although not as secure as concrete dividers, they provided a little bit of comfort to driving here. If a big rig is going fast enough, the metal dividers slow them down, but don't necessarily stop them from traversing into the oncoming lanes.
Sad.... really sad about those poor people in the bus.
My thoughts to the families involved.
Jim,
Did that highway have a center divider ?
The reason I ask is that this "toilet of a state" finally, after decades of crossover deaths, instituted a plan to install center dividers on most of the highways that could accommodate them. Unfortunately, not all can have them due to size constraints, but a lot of them now have the metal girder style center dividers. Although not as secure as concrete dividers, they provided a little bit of comfort to driving here. If a big rig is going fast enough, the metal dividers slow them down, but don't necessarily stop them from traversing into the oncoming lanes.
Sad.... really sad about those poor people in the bus.
Than here in So Cal.
04-14-2014, 01:10 AM
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Here in the Red, er North Star State, they're putting guard rails right up against the left lane of one way or the other. If you spin out on the frequent ice, instead of going 30 feet into the ditch out of harms way and hanging it up on the fence, you bounce and spin back into traffic for a second chance at death or dismemberment.
I swear, our civil engineers stay awake at night trying to figure out how to get the body count up. Case in point, they put in a 4 lane bypass around Cambridge MN. The South Main Street intersection had main street curving right up to the intersection, 65MPH hwy 65 S curved through the intersection, two busy roads ran parallel to this mess, and they put in no signals. I think 9 people died in fierce crashes in a year before they put signals in. Even with the semaphores, if you're not paying attention, you can really get confused, especially at night.
I swear, our civil engineers stay awake at night trying to figure out how to get the body count up. Case in point, they put in a 4 lane bypass around Cambridge MN. The South Main Street intersection had main street curving right up to the intersection, 65MPH hwy 65 S curved through the intersection, two busy roads ran parallel to this mess, and they put in no signals. I think 9 people died in fierce crashes in a year before they put signals in. Even with the semaphores, if you're not paying attention, you can really get confused, especially at night.
04-14-2014, 05:54 AM
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It's like the rural signals where a lot of accidents happen. They can be seen for 5+ miles, but they figure they aren't bright enough, so they put brighter lights in. Now they can be seen for another mile or two. And they still have serious accidents. Gee, I wonder why, you get used to seeing a red light ahead of you for 7-8 minutes, and they sneak right up on you, especially when there's nothing to help judge how far you are from the intersection.
04-15-2014, 07:39 PM
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Here in the Red, er North Star State, they're putting guard rails right up against the left lane of one way or the other. If you spin out on the frequent ice, instead of going 30 feet into the ditch out of harms way and hanging it up on the fence, you bounce and spin back into traffic for a second chance at death or dismemberment.
I swear, our civil engineers stay awake at night trying to figure out how to get the body count up. Case in point, they put in a 4 lane bypass around Cambridge MN. The South Main Street intersection had main street curving right up to the intersection, 65MPH hwy 65 S curved through the intersection, two busy roads ran parallel to this mess, and they put in no signals. I think 9 people died in fierce crashes in a year before they put signals in. Even with the semaphores, if you're not paying attention, you can really get confused, especially at night.
I swear, our civil engineers stay awake at night trying to figure out how to get the body count up. Case in point, they put in a 4 lane bypass around Cambridge MN. The South Main Street intersection had main street curving right up to the intersection, 65MPH hwy 65 S curved through the intersection, two busy roads ran parallel to this mess, and they put in no signals. I think 9 people died in fierce crashes in a year before they put signals in. Even with the semaphores, if you're not paying attention, you can really get confused, especially at night.
You can fix an intersection or interchange with as many warning devices as you like. You can't fix bad drivers, kinda like you cant fix stupid. Good post Jm
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04-16-2014, 10:03 PM
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Very sorry and saddened by this. Just a group of kids headin out for a fun weekend. Senseless.
I just never get it....
Prayers said.
I just never get it....
Prayers said.
04-25-2014, 11:52 PM
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Witness said the truck was on fire as it crossed the median, sounds like they are trying to blame someone who cannot defend himself.
Amazed there were no witnesses on the other side of the hi way behind the FedEx truck.
Maybe the DPF malfunctioned and overheated.
Amazed there were no witnesses on the other side of the hi way behind the FedEx truck.
Maybe the DPF malfunctioned and overheated.
04-27-2014, 10:02 AM
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I heard that too. Of course there is going to be no evidence that it was, it burnt up completely after the crash, unless someone had a dash cam.
It could have been electrical too. My cousin was in a newer Columbia freightshaker driving for West Side Transport. Was on the computer one night when the cab filled with smoke, he dived for the door and barely got out. Truck shut off and was still smoking, so he got the batteries unhooked. Something in the fuse panel in the wall behind the driver's seat melted down. If he had been sleeping when it went, he'd be dead, his lungs and throat hurt for several days.
It could have been electrical too. My cousin was in a newer Columbia freightshaker driving for West Side Transport. Was on the computer one night when the cab filled with smoke, he dived for the door and barely got out. Truck shut off and was still smoking, so he got the batteries unhooked. Something in the fuse panel in the wall behind the driver's seat melted down. If he had been sleeping when it went, he'd be dead, his lungs and throat hurt for several days.
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