Putting in 5 gal of 3 YO fuel - Dodge Diesel

7707 · 04-24-2012, 11:10 AM

I used to operate a 12 ton diesel forklift for my job. The lift is no longer at my disposal but I have 5 gallons of fuel sitting in a can that's been around for about 3 years.

It is almost normal diesel fuel color with a very slight green tint to it BUT there is no visible algae growth anywhere and you can see all the way to the bottom of the can.

It also smells fine as though it just came out of the pump.

I want to toss it in my truck ('95) and save myself $20 on my next fill up but wanted to know if I should do anything other maybe run some injector cleaner and maybe some fuel dryer in the can and mix it up good before putting in my tank.

SIXSLUG · 04-24-2012, 12:28 PM

Wouldn't hurt. If it shows no signs of algae or water intrusion it should be fine.

A shot of Power Service 911 should do the trick.

joem · 04-24-2012, 01:02 PM

algae in fuel? How does that happen? We sucked the fuel out of my friends 1945 TD14A that was full of 1980's fuel, looked great. my 12V snapped it right up! The exahust from the 5,000 ppm fuel put me back in time!

7707 · 04-24-2012, 04:53 PM

Thanks guys.

It doesn't appear to have water in it and it's been out of the weather.

I'll probably just put some water remover in it just in case and let it ride.

SIXSLUG · 04-24-2012, 06:14 PM

Algae grows in diesel when there is enough water in the fuel to support it. It is a common occurrence and there are many products made to specifically reduce its presence. Many times it is what clogs up a fuel filter in a diesel engine.

Search "algae in diesel fuel" and see what all comes up.

joem · 04-25-2012, 12:33 AM

wow strange Iv never seen it or had a issue, maybe its because im in a colder area of the USA? My logger friends who all run diesels year around have never seen it either.

patdaly · 04-25-2012, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by joem

wow strange Iv never seen it or had a issue, maybe its because im in a colder area of the USA? My logger friends who all run diesels year around have never seen it either.

Yep, more prevalent in tropical weather.

7707 · 04-25-2012, 05:58 AM

And tropical weather it's been down here. No winter to speak of and we've had things blooming since right after Christmas...allergy season has been horrendous.

I work with truck drivers a lot and a couple of the ones I load/unload on a regular basis were having some bad algae issues last year...fuel was turning black with it less than 2 weeks after buying it.

kawi600 · 04-25-2012, 08:29 AM

If youre prone to getting water in fuel, it might be worth making a fuel polishing setup. A decent electric pump and a water-block filter. They really do strip water out of the fuel.
Otherwise adding some biocide is a good idea. I do this with any diesel / biodiesel I put in storage to keep any bugs from growing in there.

Junk Man · 04-25-2012, 02:22 PM

Startron diesel treatment works wonders for things growing in fuel. My 85 Mercedes SD wouldn't run & I dumped the Startron in. It ran fine after that. Lots of info on the Mercedes diesel forums.

FWIW, the 617 is the lovely bullet proof engine with the mechanical IP comparable in beauty to our 12V.

SIXSLUG · 04-25-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Junk Man

FWIW, the 617 is the lovely bullet proof engine with the mechanical IP comparable in beauty to our 12V.

The old turbocharged 3.0 5 cylinder IIRC?

infidel · 04-26-2012, 10:44 AM

If you live in an area where it gets much below freezing the cold kills the diesel algae spores, it doesn't survive and cause a problem.

I used over 100 gallons of fuel that had been sitting in a tank in my neighbor's boneyard for over 25 years, no problem at all.
Then again it was the old high sulfur diesel, my bet is the new stuff doesn't store as long.

trust · 05-04-2012, 09:46 AM

Wow! excellent thread, I have been cleaning out an old barn and found a couple of 5 gal cans with old diesel in them that I was tempted to dump in either my 01 or the John Deere that is in the barn, I'll go ahead and give it a try. I wonder if the big tank is full.... be nice if the couple hundred gallons in it were ok.....

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SIXSLUG Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pacific NW, B'ham, Kalispell MT Posts: 3,495 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Wouldn't hurt. If it shows no signs of algae or water intrusion it should be fine. A shot of Power Service 911 should do the trick. __________________ Kurt 2001.5 2500 QC LB 4WD H.O. 6-SPD SLT Plus 3.54's, Camper/Tow/Plow, A.R.E. Canopy w/ SS Vanguard rack, Southbend clutch and hyd.,TIMBO APPS, BHAF/Heatshield, MBRP 4" TBE, FP Gauge, Femco E-Z Drainplug, DSS, Thuren Trac Bar, 2" leveling kit, P/H Tow Mirrors, PBR, 128K miles. FASS LP "When I was younger I could remember anything, whether it happened or not." Mark Twain Support Our Troops! NRA, MSBL, BYO, GSP, BOLTS, Southpaw, CDC* *Cracked Dash Club

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joem Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Brightwood, Oregon Posts: 530 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	algae in fuel? How does that happen? We sucked the fuel out of my friends 1945 TD14A that was full of 1980's fuel, looked great. my 12V snapped it right up! The exahust from the 5,000 ppm fuel put me back in time! __________________ 1995 12V single cab auto with 2002 Dana 70 disk rear axle. Goerend 900/400 converter & Valve body, #10 plate, Starwheel 2 turns, boost elbow, leveling kit, Energy bushing kit, Bilstein 5100's,Sport headlights + brightbox + Phillips xtreme vision lights. 3K GSK coming soon

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kawi600 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Boston, mASS Posts: 2,808 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	If youre prone to getting water in fuel, it might be worth making a fuel polishing setup. A decent electric pump and a water-block filter. They really do strip water out of the fuel. Otherwise adding some biocide is a good idea. I do this with any diesel / biodiesel I put in storage to keep any bugs from growing in there. __________________ 95 Ram 2500 220k mi, DTT auto w/ 4 disc converter, PS62/12, 4" exhaust, AFE filter, rebuilt 215 pump, TST AFC kit, #10 plate, 181 DV's, 7x.010 275BAR 148* Injectors, GS3K, 18*timing, Hamilton 210/181 cam, springs, pushrods. Hamilton 12v head, 625 studs, orings, snow water/meth Dont blame me, I supported Ron Paul Toute nation a le gouvernement qu’elle mérite

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infidel Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Montana Posts: 14,434 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	If you live in an area where it gets much below freezing the cold kills the diesel algae spores, it doesn't survive and cause a problem. I used over 100 gallons of fuel that had been sitting in a tank in my neighbor's boneyard for over 25 years, no problem at all. Then again it was the old high sulfur diesel, my bet is the new stuff doesn't store as long. __________________ Bill '95 2500 4x4 auto '95 3500 5 speed flatbed hauler stock for one day

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04-24-2012, 04:53 PM	#4
7707 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 60 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Thanks guys. It doesn't appear to have water in it and it's been out of the weather. I'll probably just put some water remover in it just in case and let it ride.

04-24-2012, 06:14 PM	#5
SIXSLUG Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pacific NW, B'ham, Kalispell MT Posts: 3,495 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Algae grows in diesel when there is enough water in the fuel to support it. It is a common occurrence and there are many products made to specifically reduce its presence. Many times it is what clogs up a fuel filter in a diesel engine. Search "algae in diesel fuel" and see what all comes up.

04-25-2012, 12:33 AM	#6
joem Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Brightwood, Oregon Posts: 530 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	wow strange Iv never seen it or had a issue, maybe its because im in a colder area of the USA? My logger friends who all run diesels year around have never seen it either.

04-25-2012, 05:58 AM	#8
7707 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 60 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	And tropical weather it's been down here. No winter to speak of and we've had things blooming since right after Christmas...allergy season has been horrendous. I work with truck drivers a lot and a couple of the ones I load/unload on a regular basis were having some bad algae issues last year...fuel was turning black with it less than 2 weeks after buying it.

04-25-2012, 02:22 PM	#10
Junk Man Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,031 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Startron diesel treatment works wonders for things growing in fuel. My 85 Mercedes SD wouldn't run & I dumped the Startron in. It ran fine after that. Lots of info on the Mercedes diesel forums. FWIW, the 617 is the lovely bullet proof engine with the mechanical IP comparable in beauty to our 12V.

05-04-2012, 09:46 AM	#13
trust Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northern New Mexico Posts: 137 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Wow! excellent thread, I have been cleaning out an old barn and found a couple of 5 gal cans with old diesel in them that I was tempted to dump in either my 01 or the John Deere that is in the barn, I'll go ahead and give it a try. I wonder if the big tank is full.... be nice if the couple hundred gallons in it were ok.....