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Old 09-06-2005, 10:21 AM
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Legal To Run The Red Stuff!!!

Just read this from the IRS, its only until Sept 15th, but any little bit helps

http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/...147221,00.html
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It's still only legal to run red on-road if you pay the taxes.
You're not getting a tax break, the rule is just to compensate if there are shortages of clear fuel.
The temporary exemption makes it easier to cheat but you are still cheating.
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This penalty relief is available to any person that sells or uses dyed fuel for highway use. In the case of the operator of the vehicle in which the dyed fuel is used, the relief is available only if the operator or the person selling the fuel pays the tax of 24.4 cents per gallon.
Guess whos responsibility it is to make sure this has been paid.
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I guess it would pay for me to read the whole article, wouldnt it.
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My understanding was is that they will charge the tax, but if they don't, then no fine.
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I'd stay far away from that stuff if I were you guys. You do have to pay the tax on it, and you are only allowed to use it when other supplies have run out.
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Just read on another message board where a guy in Virgina was filling up yesterday and noticed the fuel from the taxed pump was red. Went inside to complain and was told it was because they were out of clear and that it was no problem because of the emergency regulations. He would have never known he was pumping red except that he topped it way up.

Moral is you may not know what you are pumping right now, save your receipts for the next couple months to prove you paid taxes.
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Ever since I worked at a convience store, I have kept my fuel reciepts for a while (not always months, but atleast a couple weeks). Clerks make mistakes, especially when there are two employees watching 15 pumps and trying to keep customers from stealing anything they can walk out with.
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Originally Posted by Fronty Owner
Clerks make mistakes, especially when there are two employees watching 15 pumps and trying to keep customers from stealing anything they can walk out with.
I always make sure I keep my receipts, as when I once was stopped by my neighbor (deputy sheriff) for non-payment at the fuel stop. When I showed my paid receipt, he went back to the stop and pulled the video record. Sheepishly the clerk admitted he didn't know the other clerk logged my receipt. Always get a receipt!
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also get your recipt incase you find water in your fuel you can go back to where you got the fuel. I also try to only fill up at one station, if I can help it.


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I always keep the receipt till I fill up the next time, you never know when it might come in handy.

If I don't "fill up" and just "top it off", then I keep both receipts till I fill up next time.


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What do you guys all pay with cash? I never bother keeping receipts. In the rare case I would need it, it's a quick call to the credit card company or a quick hop on their website to print out all of the charges for the month... I dont see a need to keep credit card receipts from fuel stations.

I would also avoid running red unless you are served it unknowingly..even if there is a temporary window of permission, I've read the red stays in your system for many tankfulls, and it would be just my luck that if I did it, I'd get dipped a few tanks later..hehe
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I called my dealer about using the off road fuel in my 05 CTD and the service manager said "DO NOT USE IT". Our engines are not set up to run it. He also said the I would void my cummins warranty if I use it.
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According to our local fuel supplier, its the same stuff except for the dye, so why would it void the warranty? Up here in winter months, its cut with kerosene to reduce gelling, but thats all.

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He said it had a higher sulfer content among other things......I don't know....He said not to burn it.


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