infinity stereo system .... - Dodge Diesel

dieselcrazy · 01-11-2005, 12:49 PM

i bought my truck used and it already had an after market stereo system in it. there is a pioneer head unit, 2 rockford amps,4 6x9 MB QUARTZ and 2 12" kicker subs behind the seats....im wondering what it would take to put in a complete factory infinity system ( other than finding one 4 sale ). it did not have the infinity system from factory and does not have the pillar mount for the speaker so i know i would need A pillars. i have no idea what wiring is still there from the factory so lets assume none. id like a complete system so what should i be looking for ?? head unit ( cd ) 4 speakers plus the 2 in the pillars, is there an amp involved ?? anything else ? also what years and diff models can i buy ( durango, ram etc and what years ) anyone have a system 4 sale ?? thanks guys, scott

Commatoze · 01-11-2005, 02:17 PM

Take it from someone who designs OEM sound systems. You don't want a factory Infinity system. At the risk of stepping on toes (sorry guys), Infinity systems are pure cheap crap. A small amp mounted on each speaker takes speaker level signals and amplifys them further. If you really insisted on having the OEM system, you have to run +12 volts into each door to power the little amps. I haven't reversed engineered a Chrysler product for a few years, but the speakerswere just basic paper cone with a little whizzer cone in the center. Build on what you've got, and you'll be a lot happier.

wingnut · 01-11-2005, 02:33 PM

The '97 I just got has the Infinity system. While it is pretty good for a factory system it's nothing to write home about.

From the description of the system you have I'm sure you have better sound (assuming it was installed and wired correctly)

jprovence · 01-11-2005, 03:36 PM

This is definitaly a different question anyone I have ever seen. I havn't heard of anyone wanting to go back to the factory systems. Most "permium" factory systems don't have very good frequency repsonse, they are of low wattage. They really can bring out the music like a good aftermarket system can. But if you want to down grade, thats your option. You will proably just have to search ebay for the things that people are selling. I dunno, I know the MB makes some great stuff. I dont understand this one man.

signature600 · 01-11-2005, 05:03 PM

WHY! But if you insist, I'll sell you mine

I'd even pull the wiring for you, even trade for what you've got

Chris

BTW, a 97 had the tweeters in the top of the doors, in front of the window switches. You don't need pillars.

Patrick Campbell · 01-11-2005, 06:24 PM

I just threw away my factory system. It's garbage. THE headunits sell on ebay for $100+ for some reason. I tossed my speakers in the garbage and sold the HU. Didn't even bother to check what the speakers would sell for because they suck so much.

I bought a new $200 MP3 HU + 4 $25 speakers + free shipping + all wiring + wiring harnesses + adapters + directions for $210 (2 rebate+friend referal discount) on crutchfield and sold my stock HU for $100. Total cost $110.

The whole system and the tweaters are junk. I'm thinking about hooking up little speakers to my CB radio there though (?).

signature600 · 01-11-2005, 08:07 PM

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Originally posted by njoverkill
THE headunits sell on ebay for $100+ for some reason.

I'm thinking about hooking up little speakers to my CB radio there though (?).

Never thought about that, I may try the CB trick, key word is MAY though, it's loud enough with the two 25W PA speakers right under the cab pointing towards the curbs (when they're turned on to yell at someone

).

Chris

Dr. Evil · 01-11-2005, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by njoverkill
I just threw away my factory system. It's garbage. THE headunits sell on ebay for $100+ for some reason.

Yup.....the head units arent even worth the $100, IMO

dieselcrazy · 01-12-2005, 11:40 PM

OK OK forgive me for my moment of ignorance

ill keep what i have. i just thought maybe it would sound as good as my wifes BOSE in her trailblazer since its the high end dodge stereo. what i have is very very loud with huge loads of thump at the turn of a ****... almost to loud for my ageing ears... LOL scott

Dr. Evil · 01-13-2005, 12:54 AM

you could always get rid of the subs....find some punk to sell them to....

With stereo equipment, aftermarket is always better....

Commatoze · 01-13-2005, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dieselcrazy
.......i just thought maybe it would sound as good as my wifes BOSE in her trailblazer.....

Glad you like it!

Rare1 · 01-13-2005, 10:53 AM

Hey, Commatoze, since you are a designer can you help us out? There have been many questions about upgrading our Infinity systems, and there is much confusion. The consensus seems to be that it is trash. I don't like mine. Could you post (maybe start a new thread) a decent replacement system, not expensive, including head unit, 4 speakers, tweeters. I am not interested in amps and subs, too much space and complexity.

One complex bit I am interested in, I would like to plug earphones into the HU or a dashboard socket and turn off the speakers. Is that possible? TIA for sharing your expertise.

dieselcrazy, sorry I hijacked your thread.

4RGSP · 01-13-2005, 11:24 AM

That's an excellant question Rare1. Come on Commatoze, I know you get a 6 figure income to design systems for the other guys. Please do a freebe for us "Dodge Boys"!

jfpointer · 01-13-2005, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rare1
One complex bit I am interested in, I would like to plug earphones into the HU or a dashboard socket and turn off the speakers. Is that possible? TIA for sharing your expertise.

dieselcrazy, sorry I hijacked your thread.

Doesn't sound very safe...

dieselcrazy · 01-14-2005, 09:53 PM

commatoze ..... did u engineer the bose/ trailblazer set up ??

01-11-2005, 02:17 PM	#2
Commatoze Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sturbridge, Taxachusetts Posts: 1,423 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Take it from someone who designs OEM sound systems. You don't want a factory Infinity system. At the risk of stepping on toes (sorry guys), Infinity systems are pure cheap crap. A small amp mounted on each speaker takes speaker level signals and amplifys them further. If you really insisted on having the OEM system, you have to run +12 volts into each door to power the little amps. I haven't reversed engineered a Chrysler product for a few years, but the speakerswere just basic paper cone with a little whizzer cone in the center. Build on what you've got, and you'll be a lot happier. __________________ Former owner of an '02.5 4x4 QC SB, Lt. Almond, Auto, 3.55LS, DTT 4" exhaust, Westin Platinum step bars, Reunel rear bumper w/PIAA 40's Leer 100XL cap, Kaydenco mud flaps, Bilstein's, Mag-Hytec diff. covers, BHAF, Optimas, Garmin GPS V, Sirirus sat., Yaesu FT-8900 (I'm K3GM) Delivered 3/1/02 - 135,000 miles 2/15/07 Altogether now...."Happy trails to you.....until we meet again....."

01-11-2005, 03:36 PM	#4
jprovence Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Hampton, Virgina Posts: 73 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	This is definitaly a different question anyone I have ever seen. I havn't heard of anyone wanting to go back to the factory systems. Most "permium" factory systems don't have very good frequency repsonse, they are of low wattage. They really can bring out the music like a good aftermarket system can. But if you want to down grade, thats your option. You will proably just have to search ebay for the things that people are selling. I dunno, I know the MB makes some great stuff. I dont understand this one man. __________________ RIP my beloved CUMMINS 1996 CTD 4x4 2500, 70K miles #12 plate 4" exhaust AFE filter 6% tint all around white face gauges Isspro boost and pyro gauges Pioneer Premier 760mp Pioneer GM5000T Amp 2 JBL 10" subs in custom enclosure JBL front speakers, stockers in rear I PROUDLY SERVE THE UNITED STATES NAVY ON THE USS GEORGE WASHINGTON, CVN-73.

01-11-2005, 05:03 PM	#5
signature600 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Jeffersonville, Ohio Posts: 3,591 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	WHY! But if you insist, I'll sell you mine I'd even pull the wiring for you, even trade for what you've got Chris BTW, a 97 had the tweeters in the top of the doors, in front of the window switches. You don't need pillars. __________________ 2010 Ram 3500 CCLB SRW Loaded Deep Water Blue Stock....for a while...

01-11-2005, 06:24 PM	#6
Patrick Campbell Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,784 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	I just threw away my factory system. It's garbage. THE headunits sell on ebay for $100+ for some reason. I tossed my speakers in the garbage and sold the HU. Didn't even bother to check what the speakers would sell for because they suck so much. I bought a new $200 MP3 HU + 4 $25 speakers + free shipping + all wiring + wiring harnesses + adapters + directions for $210 (2 rebate+friend referal discount) on crutchfield and sold my stock HU for $100. Total cost $110. The whole system and the tweaters are junk. I'm thinking about hooking up little speakers to my CB radio there though (?). __________________ Shares the 04 Jetta TDI with wife - no more truck!

01-13-2005, 10:53 AM	#12
Rare1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 559 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Hey, Commatoze, since you are a designer can you help us out? There have been many questions about upgrading our Infinity systems, and there is much confusion. The consensus seems to be that it is trash. I don't like mine. Could you post (maybe start a new thread) a decent replacement system, not expensive, including head unit, 4 speakers, tweeters. I am not interested in amps and subs, too much space and complexity. One complex bit I am interested in, I would like to plug earphones into the HU or a dashboard socket and turn off the speakers. Is that possible? TIA for sharing your expertise. dieselcrazy, sorry I hijacked your thread. __________________ 1998 2500 SLT QuadCab ShortBed, 12 valve, 2 WD , 3.54 diff with Mag Hytec, #10 plate, boost elbow, TAG II, 3000 GSK, timing at 15* (thank you Clucker), automatic full ATS, TripleLoc, Commander, PacBrake, tow pkg, Rancho 9000, AirLift, 20 MPG around town. LanceLite 8.5' slide in, 3500 lb boat/trailer. Bought it 12 years ago after a 1-year nationwide search. It has gobs of torque, runs great, makes 28 PSI boost if I want it, or just 3 PSI empty on the freeway at 70 MPH and 22 mpg.

01-11-2005, 02:33 PM	#3
wingnut Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gretna, VA Posts: 32 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	The '97 I just got has the Infinity system. While it is pretty good for a factory system it's nothing to write home about. From the description of the system you have I'm sure you have better sound (assuming it was installed and wired correctly)

01-12-2005, 11:40 PM	#9
dieselcrazy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: lancaster,pa Posts: 344 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	OK OK forgive me for my moment of ignorance ill keep what i have. i just thought maybe it would sound as good as my wifes BOSE in her trailblazer since its the high end dodge stereo. what i have is very very loud with huge loads of thump at the turn of a ****... almost to loud for my ageing ears... LOL scott

01-13-2005, 12:54 AM	#10
Dr. Evil Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Great White North Posts: 7,121 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	you could always get rid of the subs....find some punk to sell them to.... With stereo equipment, aftermarket is always better....

01-13-2005, 11:24 AM	#13
4RGSP Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Illinois Posts: 159 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	That's an excellant question Rare1. Come on Commatoze, I know you get a 6 figure income to design systems for the other guys. Please do a freebe for us "Dodge Boys"! __________________ 2001 1 ton 24 v, 4X4, Auto, 3.55, RV 275's,Edge EZ, AFE Proguard 7, Turbo-Master, 4" exhaust,Suncoast Trans Upgrade Kit, ATS T/C, VB, ATS Double Deep Pan,Commander,Autometer Carbon Fiber Gauges; pyro,trans,boost, DiPricol F/P Gauge, Alpine Stereo w/ XM, B&W turn over ball,Maap Step Bars, Combo Dog/Tool Box in the back.

01-14-2005, 09:53 PM	#15
dieselcrazy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: lancaster,pa Posts: 344 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	commatoze ..... did u engineer the bose/ trailblazer set up ??

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