help me understand - Dodge Diesel

95ram · 02-07-2005, 04:48 AM

How much weight I can tow with my pickup. I see people talking about the sticker in the door that says something about gross vehicle weight. I'm not understanding this. To make things simple can someone just tell me how much I can tow with my pickup.

natstayl · 02-07-2005, 07:27 AM

Lots of info located in the Towing forum about GVW and GVCW. Here's one.http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/d...ighlight=26000
Hope this helps.
Nat

95ram · 02-07-2005, 08:54 AM

Thank you for the link, but it seemed to do more with campers in the bed of the pickup. I'm more interested in how much I can tow with my pickup. I'm wondering if my goose neck weighs 16,000 is this ok.

RustyJC · 02-07-2005, 09:09 AM

IF you're asking how to evaluate where you are vis-a-vis the manufacturer's ratings, here's a method to get you there:

First, you'll need to know the actual laden curb weight (LCW) of your truck. This is the scale weight with full tank of fuel, driver, passenger(s), options, accessories (i.e., gooseneck hitch, toolbox, etc.), cargo, etc. just like you'll be heading down the road. With the LCW as well as the truck's GVWR (on the driver's door sticker - 8800 lbs in your case, I believe) and the truck's GCWR (either in the owner's manual or on the Mulroney {new vehicle} window sticker - 20000 lbs in your case, I believe), you can use the following formulas:

Truck's GCWR - Truck's LCW = maximum allowable total weight of loaded trailer

Truck's GVWR - Truck's LCW = maximum allowable pin/tongue weight of loaded trailer.

I suspect a 16000 lb gooseneck is going to put you well over both ratings.

Now, will the truck handle the load? Yes, but that's a different discussion.

Rusty

95ram · 02-07-2005, 09:24 AM

Thanks Rusty. Thats what I wanted to know

mestdagh · 02-07-2005, 10:05 AM

The towing guide from the dodge site might help also:
http://www-5.dodge.com/vehsuite/Towi...icle=ram_truck

RustyJC · 02-07-2005, 10:13 AM

The problem with the towing guide is that it gives a trailer tow rating (1.) based on an unrealistically low curb weight (i.e., a base truck with no options or accessories and only a 150 lb driver) and (2.) totally ignores the GVWR which will be exceeded long before the GCWR is approached when dealing with a SRW truck pulling a gooseneck or 5th wheel. The formulas I gave above are "real world".

Rusty

Patrick Campbell · 02-07-2005, 07:52 PM

Check out the link in my sig !

natstayl · 02-08-2005, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by njoverkill
Check out the link in my sig !

NJ neither of the links work for me. Might wanna check on them.
Nat

Patrick Campbell · 02-08-2005, 10:16 PM

It should work.... what error are you getting.

The proper link is http://xj.cdevco.net/auto/dodgetowing/

Rattletrap1 · 02-09-2005, 12:51 AM

remove the last slash....it sends browsers in strange places.

natstayl · 02-09-2005, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by njoverkill
It should work.... what error are you getting.

The proper link is http://xj.cdevco.net/auto/dodgetowing/

All three links are working today. We now return you to your normally scheduled program.
Nat

02-07-2005, 07:27 AM	#2
natstayl Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NC Mtns near Boone Posts: 560 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Lots of info located in the Towing forum about GVW and GVCW. Here's one.http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/d...ighlight=26000 Hope this helps. Nat __________________ 2003 2500 SLT QC, Garnet Red, SWB, 4x4, 305/555, 48RE, 4.10LS, Pwr Adj. Pedals, Charcoal Prem Cloth, Rugged Trail T/A's, Color Matched Over-the-Rails Speedliner, 4" Putco Boss wheel-to-wheel nerfs, 20' Kaufman GN Tractor hauler

02-07-2005, 09:09 AM	#4
RustyJC Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 1,749 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	IF you're asking how to evaluate where you are vis-a-vis the manufacturer's ratings, here's a method to get you there: First, you'll need to know the actual laden curb weight (LCW) of your truck. This is the scale weight with full tank of fuel, driver, passenger(s), options, accessories (i.e., gooseneck hitch, toolbox, etc.), cargo, etc. just like you'll be heading down the road. With the LCW as well as the truck's GVWR (on the driver's door sticker - 8800 lbs in your case, I believe) and the truck's GCWR (either in the owner's manual or on the Mulroney {new vehicle} window sticker - 20000 lbs in your case, I believe), you can use the following formulas: Truck's GCWR - Truck's LCW = maximum allowable total weight of loaded trailer Truck's GVWR - Truck's LCW = maximum allowable pin/tongue weight of loaded trailer. I suspect a 16000 lb gooseneck is going to put you well over both ratings. Now, will the truck handle the load? Yes, but that's a different discussion. Rusty __________________ 2002 3500 6x4 SLT+ Sport QC, Bright White/Tan Leather, ETH/DEE, 4.10LS, Westach, EZ, DD2's, SBC Con OFE, Jardine, BHAF w TAG, B&W, Jacobs, Jordan, RS9000's, PowerVision, Line-X, WeatherGuard, etc., etc. 347 RWHP/762 lb-ft (Dynojet 3/13/04 - uncorrected) 2004 Doubletree Mobile Suites 36RE3 5ver 2007 BMW K1200GT BMWMOA 120519

02-07-2005, 10:05 AM	#6
mestdagh Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Between Boulder & Crestone, CO Posts: 257 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	The towing guide from the dodge site might help also: http://www-5.dodge.com/vehsuite/Towi...icle=ram_truck __________________ 2005 2500 SLT Quadcab shortbed 4x4 6speed 325/610 3.73 NV5600 My off road package: air dam removed, xfer case & fuel tank skid plates, Line-X rockers, Warn 4x fender flares, Toyo A/T 285/75R17 E rated PIAA reverse / rear lights

02-07-2005, 07:52 PM	#8
Patrick Campbell Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,784 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Check out the link in my sig ! __________________ Shares the 04 Jetta TDI with wife - no more truck!

02-09-2005, 12:51 AM	#11
Rattletrap1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bay Area, CA Posts: 704 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	remove the last slash....it sends browsers in strange places. __________________ 2001.5 3500 HO 6 spd. dually 4x4, DD1's, DDTT Module set on stun, Banks Brake w/ Monster exhaust, Isspro EGT, Boost, FP on pillar, S&B cold air intake, custome Kevlar towing clutch, RS 9000X's, dual leaf SuperSprings 12' Alpenlite cabover camper (13K gross) '01 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4.0L '08 Roush 427R Mustang '86 Porsche 944 Turbo 26' Shamrock Mackinaw w/ 5.9 Cummins 12V

02-07-2005, 08:54 AM	#3
95ram Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Fergus Falls, MN Posts: 1,354 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Thank you for the link, but it seemed to do more with campers in the bed of the pickup. I'm more interested in how much I can tow with my pickup. I'm wondering if my goose neck weighs 16,000 is this ok.

02-07-2005, 09:24 AM	#5
95ram Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Fergus Falls, MN Posts: 1,354 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Thanks Rusty. Thats what I wanted to know

02-07-2005, 10:13 AM	#7
RustyJC Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 1,749 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	The problem with the towing guide is that it gives a trailer tow rating (1.) based on an unrealistically low curb weight (i.e., a base truck with no options or accessories and only a 150 lb driver) and (2.) totally ignores the GVWR which will be exceeded long before the GCWR is approached when dealing with a SRW truck pulling a gooseneck or 5th wheel. The formulas I gave above are "real world". Rusty

02-08-2005, 10:16 PM	#10
Patrick Campbell Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,784 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	It should work.... what error are you getting. The proper link is http://xj.cdevco.net/auto/dodgetowing/

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