Front springs - Dodge Diesel

beau55 · 06-20-2005, 11:26 AM

On my 93, should the front leafs have a slight negative arch, or is that just sagging? It is a 4x4 and those are obviously some pretty beefy springs but I would do just about anything to improve the ride, even a little. If they are indeed sagging, seems to me this would 'eat up' what little working range these stiff springs had, like when they were new!

mainer · 06-20-2005, 11:47 AM

mine dont have a negitive arch on them but they are flat. Change the amount of air in your air shocks to change the ride.

beau55 · 06-20-2005, 12:16 PM

I would, but I don't actually air shocks.

mainer · 06-20-2005, 12:29 PM

mine came stock with front air shocks, guess I was lucky. LOL

apwatson50 · 06-20-2005, 01:19 PM

OE shocks were not air shocks. My springs did have a negative arch, and I know of 2 other dodges out there with negative arch, because they have sagged. This engine is really really heavy. Now you can see I have the skyjacker 2.5in lift springs ride is much better and they actually have positive arch. There is also about 3 more inches between the bump stop and spring now than there was before.

mainer · 06-20-2005, 01:32 PM

The plate in the door says that it has air shocks, it gives the amount of air to put in and everything.

apwatson50 · 06-20-2005, 01:40 PM

wow, that must have been a very very special option, thats the only one i've ever heard of!

beau55 · 06-20-2005, 03:07 PM

I was thinking of putting 2.5 skyjacker springs on the front. Figured it would about bring the front up even with the rear, or maybe a touch higher, which would be ok with me.
How much did you pay for the skyjacker fronts?

Front OEM air shocks..mmmmm

apwatson50 · 06-20-2005, 03:46 PM

I got the set and new bushings, you have to use the skyjacker bushings, for like 350 I think maybe a little less. wasn't too bad.

mainer · 06-20-2005, 05:36 PM

I want and looked at the vin tag and I will correct my self, they were not stock. The sticker is above the vin tag.

pwrtripls1 · 06-20-2005, 06:28 PM

Air shocks are pretty cheap. I have them all the way around on my Blazer. I run 25psi around town, and 135psi off road. It gives me just over 2" more clearance and takes the big bumps better without bottoming out as much.

I full set on the Cummins might be a good idea.

Alec · 06-21-2005, 08:29 AM

The air shocks were part of the Plow Prep Package. I would guess that is what your truck has, Mainer.

pwrtripls1 · 06-21-2005, 10:04 AM

Mine is a plow truck, but doesnt have air shocks.

apwatson50 · 06-21-2005, 12:17 PM

yeah but did it come from the dealer with a plow?

pwrtripls1 · 06-21-2005, 06:37 PM

ummm, i dont think it did.

06-20-2005, 11:47 AM	#2
mainer Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: fryeburg maine Posts: 471 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	mine dont have a negitive arch on them but they are flat. Change the amount of air in your air shocks to change the ride. __________________ 1998 2500 ext-cab short bed 12v 4x4 126k 6" mitre cuts, 16.5* timing, #0 plate, rack mod, afc mod, 215injectors, 3kgsw, bhaf goerend bros triple disc, transgo shift kit home built traction bars, eagle 058's on hankook mt's 295, 20% tint

06-20-2005, 01:19 PM	#5
apwatson50 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Golden, Colorado Posts: 2,865 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	OE shocks were not air shocks. My springs did have a negative arch, and I know of 2 other dodges out there with negative arch, because they have sagged. This engine is really really heavy. Now you can see I have the skyjacker 2.5in lift springs ride is much better and they actually have positive arch. There is also about 3 more inches between the bump stop and spring now than there was before. __________________ 92 Black W250 295K, getrag, valair 13" ceramic clutch, dana 80 3.54, HX40, DDP3 injectors, high pressure piston LP, custom IP, M&H M2 fuel pin, PS charge air cooler, 4 in exhaust w/ brake, gauges(and lots of them) Leece Neville power. 89 FUMMINS F350 4x4 crew cab, VE 12V, A518 trans, ford np205 t-case, PS cooler, hybrid HX35, low pressure piston LP http://s218.photobucket.com/albums/c...Truck%20stuff/

06-20-2005, 06:28 PM	#11
pwrtripls1 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Katy, TX off north Mason Road. Posts: 2,088 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Air shocks are pretty cheap. I have them all the way around on my Blazer. I run 25psi around town, and 135psi off road. It gives me just over 2" more clearance and takes the big bumps better without bottoming out as much. I full set on the Cummins might be a good idea. __________________ --91 D250--5 speed, 3.07s, SBDD 6-puck, Scheid 14mm VE (no KSB), DDP5x16's, custom IC, 3.5" boost tubes, 64/12wg turbo, 19 gallon fuel cell, .040" Mahle Marine Pistons, 60lb springs, hardened pushrods, A1 H11 studs, Ported head, Valve seats and valves cut, 10lb bottle of go juice.

06-21-2005, 08:29 AM	#12
Alec Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northwest MA Posts: 1,164 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	The air shocks were part of the Plow Prep Package. I would guess that is what your truck has, Mainer. __________________ '91.5 W250, Getrag, 3.54 axles. AFC eccentric @ max, spring @ 0 pre-load, thin washer; 1.9+mm timing; 1/2 turn on fueling screw; cam ground AFC lever; "negative torque" spring removed from governor lever. Hx-35 12cm W/G turbo. Pyro pre-turbo. 4" Exhaust DP-back; BHAF; 2nd gen fuel heater. Twin-sticked transfer case; 7 leaf front springs. Also Own: '49 Willys 4x4-63 with 6.2L diesel and NV4500 (wrecked) Wife's: '10 Jetta Sportwagon TDI

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06-20-2005, 12:16 PM	#3
beau55 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: phoenix, az Posts: 8 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	I would, but I don't actually air shocks.

06-20-2005, 12:29 PM	#4
mainer Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: fryeburg maine Posts: 471 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	mine came stock with front air shocks, guess I was lucky. LOL

06-20-2005, 01:32 PM	#6
mainer Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: fryeburg maine Posts: 471 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	The plate in the door says that it has air shocks, it gives the amount of air to put in and everything.

06-20-2005, 01:40 PM	#7
apwatson50 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Golden, Colorado Posts: 2,865 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	wow, that must have been a very very special option, thats the only one i've ever heard of!

06-20-2005, 03:07 PM	#8
beau55 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: phoenix, az Posts: 8 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	I was thinking of putting 2.5 skyjacker springs on the front. Figured it would about bring the front up even with the rear, or maybe a touch higher, which would be ok with me. How much did you pay for the skyjacker fronts? Front OEM air shocks..mmmmm

06-20-2005, 03:46 PM	#9
apwatson50 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Golden, Colorado Posts: 2,865 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	I got the set and new bushings, you have to use the skyjacker bushings, for like 350 I think maybe a little less. wasn't too bad.

06-20-2005, 05:36 PM	#10
mainer Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: fryeburg maine Posts: 471 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	I want and looked at the vin tag and I will correct my self, they were not stock. The sticker is above the vin tag.

06-21-2005, 10:04 AM	#13
pwrtripls1 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Katy, TX off north Mason Road. Posts: 2,088 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Mine is a plow truck, but doesnt have air shocks.

06-21-2005, 12:17 PM	#14
apwatson50 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Golden, Colorado Posts: 2,865 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	yeah but did it come from the dealer with a plow?

06-21-2005, 06:37 PM	#15
pwrtripls1 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Katy, TX off north Mason Road. Posts: 2,088 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	ummm, i dont think it did.