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Old 10-26-2014, 01:49 PM
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dually wheels

Will 2nd-gen dual wheels bolt to a 1st-gen?
What years F-350 wheels will?
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Bolt pattern is the same. What you have to deal with is the center pilot hole and centering them on your hub.

1stgen wheels are coined, and use 5/8" studs... but 2ndgen Dodge and Ford center on the hub and use 9/16" studs.

I have Ford, GM, and 2ndgen DRW stuff, but no 1stgen DRW stuff. If you need any specific info just ask.
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I see this all the time and I see a lot of ruined wheels and studs on account of it; do not mix coined and flat-faced wheels side-by-side.

That being said, all coined Ford wheels are identical to coined Dodge wheels; I believe Ford went to the flat-faced hub-centric wheels in about 1984; I know that my 1985 F350 has the hub-centric flat-faced wheels.

I have, at customers request, bolted flat-faced Ford wheels on various older Dodges and used the flanged 1st Gen. nuts; these trucks have ran thus for several years with no negative issues that I have seen; of course, most of those trucks are more likely to make a run to the feed-mill once a week than to be travelling cross-country at break-neck speed.

Sometime in the 90s, Ford abandoned the tried-and-true 8-on-6-1/2 bolt-pattern and started using some Communist bolt-pattern that is specific to those year-models of Ford.

So far as I know, GM DRW wheels have changed very little in design since 1973; a present-day 16" GM DRW wheel is practically a direct swap for one of 1973 vintage.

That being said, GM wheels require a trip to the machine-shop to open up the center hole to fit the Dana hub; I have a full set of GM wheels that have been done thus.

My later-model GM wheels also required a hole drilled to accommodate the locating pin/dowel; I could have simply removed the pin/dowel, but I opted to just drill the holes.

I hope I haven't confused anyone.
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Someone at some point didn't tighten down the wheels on the truck the boss' boy bought. The studs were worn half way through and the holes in the wheels are about twice as long as they should be. He hauled it to a shop to have new wheel studs put in. We were just trying to figure out how to get hub-centric wheels on it, without swapping the axle.

If there's wheels off another truck that will center on the hub a set of wheels is an option.

Machining chevy wheels may be the way to go. They are flat-faced, right?
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Originally Posted by NE frmhnd
Someone at some point didn't tighten down the wheels on the truck the boss' boy bought. The studs were worn half way through and the holes in the wheels are about twice as long as they should be. He hauled it to a shop to have new wheel studs put in. We were just trying to figure out how to get hub-centric wheels on it, without swapping the axle.

If there's wheels off another truck that will center on the hub a set of wheels is an option.

Machining chevy wheels may be the way to go. They are flat-faced, right?
The center holes in Chevy wheels are too small. You could turn them out to the right diameter to be hub centric if you have a lathe big enough.
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