Drag comp vs. Adrenaline vs. Redline box...same dyno, same truck, same day! - Page 2 - Dodge Diesel

Crazydave · 10-29-2009, 11:37 AM

I was on the dyno on Oct 3rd, thought i would throw this in the mix.
This is with the setup in my sig.
blue - Adr2_torq (base tune)
green- Adr_comp
red- Adr2_3000 with the pump stretch at 1850
On that dyno as you can see the different settings make no real difference.

For the box swapping, a friend of mine switched from a comp to the quad. The setup was the exact same except he went to 4:10 gears. He dynoed with in like 2-3 hp from what it he was.

Mike D · 10-29-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by J Lent

Onernight it now & I'll have it back to you Tuesday.

That's just not possible, I'll have to do a 12 step program first.

Mike Holmen · 10-29-2009, 06:09 PM

Has anybody just run a drag box vs a adr box?

J_lent, I think its time to put another turbo under the S364?

Looks like got some decent numbers. I want to put back in my mach 6'rs sticks, but I break to much stuff and I daily drive this truck these days

J Lent · 10-29-2009, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazydave

I was on the dyno on Oct 3rd, thought i would throw this in the mix.
This is with the setup in my sig.
blue - Adr2_torq (base tune)
green- Adr_comp
red- Adr2_3000 with the pump stretch at 1850
On that dyno as you can see the different settings make no real difference.

For the box swapping, a friend of mine switched from a comp to the quad. The setup was the exact same except he went to 4:10 gears. He dynoed with in like 2-3 hp from what it he was.

Wow! Talk about close graph tuning?

J Lent · 10-29-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike D

That's just not possible, I'll have to do a 12 step program first.

LMAO

You are a dieselaholic

J Lent · 10-29-2009, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Holmen

Has anybody just run a drag box vs a adr box?

J_lent, I think its time to put another turbo under the S364?

Looks like got some decent numbers. I want to put back in my mach 6'rs sticks, but I break to much stuff and I daily drive this truck these days

I'd actually like to go twins, but budget just don't allow. This 64/71/14 keeps things cool as is. I might swap to a Silver Bullet & Mach 7's for next year.

Crazydave · 10-29-2009, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Lent

Wow! Talk about close graph tuning?

Yea not much change for 3 different tunes. I was happy to see it was making power that high up the rpm band, it was brought up to about 3500 and was just under 500hp.

J Lent · 10-29-2009, 08:09 PM

Those tunes are the tunes which are on the quad website now?

Crazydave · 10-29-2009, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Lent

Those tunes are the tunes which are on the quad website now?

Yes.

J Lent · 10-29-2009, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazydave

Yes.

Cool. I'll just pick one

Crazydave · 10-30-2009, 12:00 AM

What you put in as a base tune (the one in the box) I think has a lot to do with how the two saved tunes behave. For example when i got the 70% tune from you my, fuel sender read correctly on all tunes. ( had the old sender from the beta testing days and the newer software didn't support it) and the wire tap issue happened on all tunes when that was in as the base.

One more thing to note, is the torq tune will only give you 2400us of pump stretch if its the base tune. If you manually tune, the pump stretch stops at 2200. If you load it, and save it to T1 or T2 it will automatically drop down to 2200, but if its loaded as a default you will have 2400 for pump stretch.

J Lent · 10-30-2009, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazydave

What you put in as a base tune (the one in the box) I think has a lot to do with how the two saved tunes behave. For example when i got the 70% tune from you my, fuel sender read correctly on all tunes. ( had the old sender from the beta testing days and the newer software didn't support it) and the wire tap issue happened on all tunes when that was in as the base.

One more thing to note, is the torq tune will only give you 2400us of pump stretch if its the base tune. If you manually tune, the pump stretch stops at 2200. If you load it, and save it to T1 or T2 it will automatically drop down to 2200, but if its loaded as a default you will have 2400 for pump stretch.

Awesome!

Mike Holmen · 10-30-2009, 09:35 PM

J Lent, twins are about as much money as the new silver bullet. I bet you could put a S475 under you current turbo for less than $1500, and you'll have alot more air and driveablity. Just food for thought. Of course you sled pull, so that single turbo rule you might have issues. As for the bigger sticks, I found that you needed at least a HRVP to the real big sticks to work fully.

J Lent · 10-30-2009, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Holmen

J Lent, twins are about as much money as the new silver bullet. I bet you could put a S475 under you current turbo for less than $1500, and you'll have alot more air and driveablity. Just food for thought. Of course you sled pull, so that single turbo rule you might have issues. As for the bigger sticks, I found that you needed at least a HRVP to the real big sticks to work fully.

The pulls I enter don't even have techs. The ones that do have techs, have a guy walking around with a clipboard asking "do you have a stock truck or are you entering the open class?" No worries about that. I might be selling some of my boxes to save up for twins soon.

J Lent · 10-31-2009, 04:15 PM

I just got back from dyno day.

The Drag/Redline made 544hp/1054lbft

The Drag comp on 5x5 made 600hp/1123lbft

The Adrenaline [dyno tune] made 607hp/1141lbft ...[+7hp/+18lbft over comp]

10-29-2009, 11:37 AM	#16
Crazydave Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fridley, MN Posts: 299 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Dyno results I was on the dyno on Oct 3rd, thought i would throw this in the mix. This is with the setup in my sig. blue - Adr2_torq (base tune) green- Adr_comp red- Adr2_3000 with the pump stretch at 1850 On that dyno as you can see the different settings make no real difference. For the box swapping, a friend of mine switched from a comp to the quad. The setup was the exact same except he went to 4:10 gears. He dynoed with in like 2-3 hp from what it he was. __________________ 01.5 2500 4X4 NV4500 5 speed 3:55, Airraid, 4" exhaust, Banks High-Ram, Adrenaline/Pulse, Mach 4's, Airdog 150, HTT62/71/14, 13" Valair Clutch

10-29-2009, 06:09 PM	#18
Mike Holmen Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Calgary Canada Posts: 3,978 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Has anybody just run a drag box vs a adr box? J_lent, I think its time to put another turbo under the S364? Looks like got some decent numbers. I want to put back in my mach 6'rs sticks, but I break to much stuff and I daily drive this truck these days __________________ 02 sport QC, SB, 3/4 4X4 DDP stg 3 sticks, back to single little tiny turbo GT3782R -Kore Recon and a few DSS parts stuff on the front. -Half worn out DTT Race tranny and the cruise control still works. -2500 watts stereo, four amps and twelve speakers cranked to the limit

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10-29-2009, 08:09 PM	#23
J Lent Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: East Millsboro, PA. Posts: 3,213 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Those tunes are the tunes which are on the quad website now?

10-30-2009, 12:00 AM	#26
Crazydave Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fridley, MN Posts: 299 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	What you put in as a base tune (the one in the box) I think has a lot to do with how the two saved tunes behave. For example when i got the 70% tune from you my, fuel sender read correctly on all tunes. ( had the old sender from the beta testing days and the newer software didn't support it) and the wire tap issue happened on all tunes when that was in as the base. One more thing to note, is the torq tune will only give you 2400us of pump stretch if its the base tune. If you manually tune, the pump stretch stops at 2200. If you load it, and save it to T1 or T2 it will automatically drop down to 2200, but if its loaded as a default you will have 2400 for pump stretch.

10-30-2009, 09:35 PM	#28
Mike Holmen Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Calgary Canada Posts: 3,978 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	J Lent, twins are about as much money as the new silver bullet. I bet you could put a S475 under you current turbo for less than $1500, and you'll have alot more air and driveablity. Just food for thought. Of course you sled pull, so that single turbo rule you might have issues. As for the bigger sticks, I found that you needed at least a HRVP to the real big sticks to work fully.

10-31-2009, 04:15 PM	#30
J Lent Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: East Millsboro, PA. Posts: 3,213 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	I just got back from dyno day. The Drag/Redline made 544hp/1054lbft The Drag comp on 5x5 made 600hp/1123lbft The Adrenaline [dyno tune] made 607hp/1141lbft ...[+7hp/+18lbft over comp]