clutches - Dodge Diesel

yz · 10-09-2002, 10:10 PM

Hey guys I was wondering you what you guys thought of the south bend con o clutch vs. dial a clutch. Dial a clutch seems to be a lot cheaper then south bend but which is better in your minds. thanks -Anthony

dodgeman01 · 10-09-2002, 10:16 PM

all I know is that is you are over 350hp a centerforce gives up. It will hole 330hp for a long time and never slip. my 0.02

Bob Beauchaine · 10-10-2002, 09:58 AM

I am running a SB Clutch and I'M very happy with it. The 1st Gen's had a noticeable launch shudder problem. Since I put my SBC in I have not had a single launch shudder. You may beat SB's prices but you can't top their customer service. Some of the things I've seen Peter do redefine customer service. In the long run if you have a problem you will see what I mean.

Bob

PourinDiesel · 10-10-2002, 11:10 AM

You get what you pay for. SBC all the way. --Justin

Doubleclutch · 10-10-2002, 05:13 PM

From a Newbie on this board, you can't go wrong with SB. Peter is a square shooter and stands behind his product!

gitchesum · 10-10-2002, 08:21 PM

Someone else said it. You get when you pay for.
Just ask Dial-a Clutch if their clutch with get a 1 ton dually to chirp the tires in 4th gear at 35 mph.

THe Con OFE is an awesome clutch. It's help just about everything I've thrown at it. And it shifts and feels smoother than the stock clutch.

SBC all the way.

yz · 10-10-2002, 09:07 PM

Wow ok. Then it's SBC. Thanks -Anthony

dodgeman01 · 10-11-2002, 10:23 AM

what about pulling a sled. Will a SB clutch hold up. I have heard that they will do the same thing as my centerfoce. They get a glaze on the clutch material and will never hold that same again. Just something I have heard. What is a good pulling clutch to use. I'm looking at a dual disc clutch from Enterprise engin performance. I have heard that they are the best.

gitchesum · 10-11-2002, 11:37 PM

Peter had developed a pulling clutch from what I understand. In interest of safety, I don't think he'll sell one unless you have a scatter shield or tranny blanket. Can't really blame the guy for that.

PourinDiesel · 10-12-2002, 07:49 AM

SBC is a great clutch for trailer pulling and racing! But for Sled Pulling, Yes the Dave Mitchell (Enterprise Engine) Pulling clutches are awesome! Both of these clutches are totally different animals for their purposes. --Justin

Don M · 10-13-2002, 07:19 PM

So far the Mitchel pulling clutch is the top dog in the pulling arena. I dont have much data on the clutch, but the peformamce of it so far is top notch.
The Southbend clutchs are the best dern street clutchs I have ever driven, but have a HP limit of about 550.
Joes modified Sachs is by far the only clutch that can hold 600 plus HP with ease and still have a sprung hub to keep vibration and harmonics down. It drives kind rough and is not for everyone, but will hold the power, street or dyno. I dont mind the way it drives but some of the guys like smooth as silk engagement with a light pedal.
Joes clutch is not for sled pulling either. The facing just wont allow it to be slipped long enough to get the weight moving.
I have been working with Joe on a modifed version of the Sachs that can be slipped, but it still is not a primary pulling clutch like the Mitchell dual disk is.

Don~

Promoter · 10-13-2002, 07:46 PM

Mitchell's clutch is good,but it's definately not the top dog. Haisley Machine's comp clutch is as good or better.

Don M · 10-13-2002, 07:53 PM

Ya know Chad, I would not deny that Van and Patty do build some great products. I just have never heard of the Haisley pulling clutch. As far as I know there may be ten other good pulling clutchs out there.
I have few ideas on clutchs too, but have not implemented any yet.

Don~

edit- I wanted to add, I like the JVD box that Haisley is using for the 24 valve engines. I really like the ability to have them (JVD) custom program the parameters to what you want.

Promoter · 10-13-2002, 08:12 PM

Who you callin Chad?? Haisley's clutches are very popular. Alot of hot pullers run Van's comp clutch including Kent Crowder,Don Quaethem,Ed West,Wade Wright and myself. That's just a few.

Don M · 10-13-2002, 09:03 PM

I thought you were Chad, sorry for the confusion ??? As far as the Haisley clutch and tractor pulling all around-I know enough about both to get me into trouble. Im sure Van can build or design a good one though. I actually want to get one those 1 3/8 input shafts made up from him for my 5- speed. Don~

10-09-2002, 10:16 PM	#2
dodgeman01 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sharpsburg KY Posts: 1,831 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Re:clutches all I know is that is you are over 350hp a centerforce gives up. It will hole 330hp for a long time and never slip.<br>my 0.02 __________________ Aaron [color=blue 94 Dodge Cummins Diesel forest green 4x4 reg. cab (2002) 5spd 215 pumped set at 30* 5x16 edm injectors ported,polished, and O-ringed head with custom valves and springs snow water meth kit put to the ground by SBC DD clutch[/color] twins soon 04 auto commonrail (stock)01 p-pumped 24v 6spd 98 dodge CTD 93 dodge ctd 95 dodge gasser Its a Horse power thing Ford owners wouldn't understaind Thanks Peter of South Bend Clutch for the new tranny clutch and help

10-10-2002, 09:58 AM	#3
Bob Beauchaine Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Portland OR Posts: 830 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Re:clutches I am running a SB Clutch and I'M very happy with it. The 1st Gen's had a noticeable launch shudder problem. Since I put my SBC in I have not had a single launch shudder. You may beat SB's prices but you can't top their customer service. Some of the things I've seen Peter do redefine customer service. In the long run if you have a problem you will see what I mean. <br>Bob __________________ 1993 CTD 4X2 Horton fan, Green HP Air Filter with custom AF mount, 14cm2, PDR HX35 turbo, ATS exh. manifold, 15%+ pump with DennyT Stage II Pin 3200 GSK, DD3+ injectors, BD exhaust brake, 4 in Rip Rook exhaust, NV4500HD trans SB clutch and gauges. 394/888 #2 - 441/889 W/M.

10-10-2002, 11:10 AM	#4
PourinDiesel Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Southern, Indiana Posts: 5,352 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Re:clutches You get what you pay for.<br><br>SBC all the way.<br><br>--Justin __________________ 1 2 3 4 5 6 *SMARTY POWERED!!*

10-10-2002, 05:13 PM	#5
Doubleclutch Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Central Coast of CA Posts: 12 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Re:clutches From a Newbie on this board, you can't go wrong with SB. Peter is a square shooter and stands behind his product! __________________ 1996 &quot215&quot hp standard cab, 3:54, 5spd.

10-10-2002, 08:21 PM	#6
gitchesum Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 153 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Re:clutches Someone else said it. You get when you pay for. Just ask Dial-a Clutch if their clutch with get a 1 ton dually to chirp the tires in 4th gear at 35 mph. THe Con OFE is an awesome clutch. It's help just about everything I've thrown at it. And it shifts and feels smoother than the stock clutch. SBC all the way. __________________ 2004 Ram 2500 Quad Cab, Short Bed, 48RE auto tranny. Mods: none.................................yet!

10-10-2002, 09:07 PM	#7
yz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Odessa, Mo Posts: 137 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Re:clutches Wow ok. Then it's SBC. Thanks -Anthony

10-11-2002, 10:23 AM	#8
dodgeman01 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sharpsburg KY Posts: 1,831 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Re:clutches what about pulling a sled. Will a SB clutch hold up. I have heard that they will do the same thing as my centerfoce. They get a glaze on the clutch material and will never hold that same again. Just something I have heard. What is a good pulling clutch to use. I'm looking at a dual disc clutch from Enterprise engin performance. I have heard that they are the best.

10-11-2002, 11:37 PM	#9
gitchesum Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 153 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Re:clutches Peter had developed a pulling clutch from what I understand.<br>In interest of safety, I don't think he'll sell one unless you have a scatter shield or tranny blanket. <br><br>Can't really blame the guy for that.

10-12-2002, 07:49 AM	#10
PourinDiesel Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Southern, Indiana Posts: 5,352 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Re:clutches SBC is a great clutch for trailer pulling and racing!<br><br>But for Sled Pulling, Yes the Dave Mitchell (Enterprise Engine)<br>Pulling clutches are awesome!<br><br>Both of these clutches are totally different animals for their purposes.<br><br>--Justin

10-13-2002, 07:19 PM	#11
Don M DTR Advertiser Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: In the Shop Posts: 3,342 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Re:clutches So far the Mitchel pulling clutch is the top dog in the pulling arena. I dont have much data on the clutch, but the peformamce of it so far is top notch. The Southbend clutchs are the best dern street clutchs I have ever driven, but have a HP limit of about 550. Joes modified Sachs is by far the only clutch that can hold 600 plus HP with ease and still have a sprung hub to keep vibration and harmonics down. It drives kind rough and is not for everyone, but will hold the power, street or dyno. I dont mind the way it drives but some of the guys like smooth as silk engagement with a light pedal. Joes clutch is not for sled pulling either. The facing just wont allow it to be slipped long enough to get the weight moving. I have been working with Joe on a modifed version of the Sachs that can be slipped, but it still is not a primary pulling clutch like the Mitchell dual disk is. Don~ __________________ The real destroyer of the liberties of the people is he who spreads among them bounties, donations and benefits.

10-13-2002, 07:46 PM	#12
Promoter Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Elwood,IN Posts: 69 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Re:clutches Mitchell's clutch is good,but it's definately not the top dog. Haisley Machine's comp clutch is as good or better.

10-13-2002, 07:53 PM	#13
Don M DTR Advertiser Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: In the Shop Posts: 3,342 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Re:clutches Ya know Chad, I would not deny that Van and Patty do build some great products. I just have never heard of the Haisley pulling clutch. As far as I know there may be ten other good pulling clutchs out there. I have few ideas on clutchs too, but have not implemented any yet. Don~ edit- I wanted to add, I like the JVD box that Haisley is using for the 24 valve engines. I really like the ability to have them (JVD) custom program the parameters to what you want.

10-13-2002, 08:12 PM	#14
Promoter Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Elwood,IN Posts: 69 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Re:clutches Who you callin Chad??<br><br><br>Haisley's clutches are very popular. Alot of hot pullers run Van's comp clutch including Kent Crowder,Don Quaethem,Ed West,Wade Wright and myself. That's just a few.<br><br><br>

10-13-2002, 09:03 PM	#15
Don M DTR Advertiser Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: In the Shop Posts: 3,342 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Re:clutches I thought you were Chad, sorry for the confusion ???<br><br>As far as the Haisley clutch and tractor pulling all around-I know enough about both to get me into trouble. Im sure Van can build or design a good one though. I actually want to get one those 1 3/8 input shafts made up from him for my 5- speed.<br><br>Don~<br><br>

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