3rd Generation Ram - Non Drivetrain - All Years Talk about the 2003 and up Dodge Ram here. PLEASE, NO ENGINE OR DRIVETRAIN DISCUSSION!.

Canopy, weight vs. aerodynamics for MPGs?

Old 01-03-2011, 12:49 AM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
bbmartin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Puyallup
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Canopy, weight vs. aerodynamics for MPGs?

As far as fuel economy, has anyone noted a difference between having a canopy on their truck or not? The way I see it, it could go two ways:
  1. The weight of the canopy could bring down your MPGs
  2. The improved aerodynamics of the truck with the canopy might off-set the increased weight and actually improve MPGs.
I'm mostly interested in freeway results as this is how most of my driving is done, and would have the most effect on aerodynamics.
Old 01-03-2011, 04:30 AM
  #2  
Registered User
 
Dodgezilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 8,803
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Mine is a high topper which "Looks" aerodynamic but when it's on the truck I lose about .5 mpg.

Old 01-03-2011, 10:16 AM
  #3  
Registered User
 
.boB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 1,409
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
A cap isn't really that aerodynamic. It creates a big square back end, which becomes a dead vacuum space and increases drag.
Old 01-03-2011, 11:09 AM
  #4  
Registered User
 
CD in NM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 3,113
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
You need wings on the back of the cap to solve that problem, they did a great job for the suv industry. There is a noticable gain to mpg's when you control the air at the tail end.


CD
Old 01-03-2011, 11:28 AM
  #5  
Registered User
 
Dodgezilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 8,803
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Maybe some Airtabs would work. The people that make them say they are awesome!!!!! LOL

Seriously though, I thought about getting a spoiler for the top of mine. I haven't done it yet because it seems that the big problem is the wind coming around the sides and then swirling around in the back causing a drag.
Old 01-03-2011, 05:09 PM
  #6  
Registered User
 
Howy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Pierre, SD
Posts: 248
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I've had toppers on both of my trucks and can't say I've noticed any difference in MPG before and after. (Mine were/are flush with the cab) However, I do notice an increase in MPG when there is a good tailwind blowing behind me. The back of the truck is about the size of a small barn and catches a lot of air!!

Have a good one.
Old 01-03-2011, 05:24 PM
  #7  
Registered User
 
jswar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Somerset, Pa.
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
And all those claims that tonneau covers give you an increase in mileage... BS!
Old 01-03-2011, 05:55 PM
  #8  
Registered User
 
Dodgezilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 8,803
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I had tonneaus on my last couple trucks and never saw a difference either. Mileage was the same as with no cover and with the tailgate up....
Old 02-07-2011, 10:58 PM
  #9  
Registered User
 
Rednax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Corpus Christi, Texas
Posts: 625
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I find my close-fit bed topper is worth about .75 mpg in winds that are not unfavorable. At least it does not hurt is an accurate statement. I've never had a straight tailwind, and, while 3/4 crosswinds are the worst, the smooth transition from cab to topper means there is only one "drop" for the air to compensate for, at the very rear of the truck (versus a two-step from cab to bed and then at tailgate).

The best topper isn't manufactured at present: A wind-tunnel tested Aerolid (see threads by "Bondo" on Ecomodder; looking for financing) is worth double-digit percentages:



Some great DIY over there as other truck owners are doing mock-ups to see what works (in coroplast) before building the real thing for themselves.

.
Old 02-08-2011, 06:55 AM
  #10  
Registered User
 
dott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 264
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Did anybody ever see the episode of Myth Busters where they did tests on different bed effects. The simple tailgate did the best. They tried no tailgate, vented tailgates, hard tonneau covers and some other stuff. The only thing better was a lightweight tailgate with very minimal venting. Has to do with the way the air flows over and around the cab into the bed. The tailgate actually creates a swirl in the bed and behind the cab that helps direct the air coming over the cab. Not intuitive but kinda interesting.
Old 02-08-2011, 10:25 PM
  #11  
Registered User
 
jballou's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bainbridge Island
Posts: 291
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
What about golf ball dimples all over? That was cool. Can someone try it for us?
Old 02-09-2011, 05:05 PM
  #12  
Registered User
 
pronstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 316
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by jballou
What about golf ball dimples all over? That was cool. Can someone try it for us?
Dimples are beneficial for rotating spheres as they move through the air.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Northern Light
Towing and Hauling / RV
18
06-21-2010 04:21 PM
IsItFast
Towing and Hauling / RV
87
03-23-2010 05:40 PM
cwoflyboy
2nd Gen. Dodge Ram - No Drivetrain
21
03-28-2008 07:52 PM
pluguglyinhere
Towing and Hauling / RV
1
07-09-2006 09:14 PM
BDude555
3rd Gen High Performance and Accessories (5.9L Only)
13
06-02-2006 06:12 PM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Canopy, weight vs. aerodynamics for MPGs?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:48 PM.