Bio Diesel - Dodge Diesel

Mongoose · 08-17-2005, 12:34 PM

Just looking for other opinion's on Bio Diesel. If you had the room would you make it yourself and save money??? Thanks for the inputs.

CSAGrey1 · 08-17-2005, 01:08 PM

A buddy of mine and myself are seriously considering setting up a system in his garage. I have never personally tried the stuff but have heard mostly good about it. We havent decided on WVO or SVO yet, but with the price of fuel right now a bio mix is staring to look really tempting. It is my understanding that one should expect to lose a little bit of power (figure this can be compensated for) but feul milage should go up consideably.

SHARPMACHINE · 08-17-2005, 01:13 PM

I just wish I could see a system at work. I would love to try it, but it is hard to get interested in something that I have never seen.

anyone near me macking it?????????????

Boatnik · 08-17-2005, 01:59 PM

I've been think'n about it since I bought my truck. We got quite a few fast food restaurants here and they all need to get rid of their french fry oil. How much room and at what cost/savings?

mestdagh · 08-17-2005, 02:20 PM

CSAGrey, My local Bio distributor told me fuel mileage should be about the same.

MasseyMan1089 · 08-17-2005, 02:28 PM

I support Soy-biodiesel. I have a bumper sticker on the truck that says "Powered By Soy Bio Diesel. I get tons of questions and comments about it. Im all for it, plus I help grow it!

John Faughn · 08-17-2005, 02:41 PM

Heres a couple of sites http://www.biodieselcommunity.org<br...seedprocessor/
Biodiesel Appleseed Reactor Planshttp://web. missouri.edu/~pavt0689/biofuel.html
Biodiesel-Biofuels Research I could only get one to come up , apple , missouri did a lot of research with our engines.

Mongoose · 08-17-2005, 03:34 PM

I first saw it on an episode of trucks, they showed a kit and how to make it. They say it would cost .60-.70 cents a gallon to make if you get the grease for free, if the business pay you then you would make money. I live in AF Base housing and don't have room for it, if I had room I would be all over it. On trucks they said you actually can make more power because you determine your Cetane Rating???? Guess one would have to do a dyno test.

farmer dave · 08-17-2005, 05:09 PM

I am all for the bio also. The only thing that I have wrong with it is the high gelling point. If they could get thhis figured out then I would definately use it, if there was a pump around here. I have also thought about setting up a system, not real sure on it though. Like SHARPMACHINE said "I just wish I could see a system at work." If it gets much worse I will probably try it though. I would rather just buy soy if I could, seems like it would be cheaper then Dio now.

DF5152 · 08-17-2005, 06:09 PM

although i have not tried it yet, there is no place close that has it, I think its a good idea. As far as WVO i am current setting up a mercedes 300D to run on WVO. as far as making my own bio fuel I dont know that i would want those chemical around I have a small child and if not properly handled the chemical are very dangerous. just getting lye on your skin will burn you and the alcohol is just as bad. there is some places on the net that talks about using acid and although is very caustic there is no titration involved, if i remember correctly. Also it cuts down on the byproducts left using the lye method

cdwmotorsports · 08-26-2005, 11:32 AM

"I support Soy-biodiesel. I have a bumper sticker on the truck that says "Powered By Soy Bio Diesel. I get tons of questions and comments about it. Im all for it, plus I help grow it!"

I would more likely buy Soy diesel if it were cheaper than petro, but since it is the same or more around here I will make my own from the french fry oil. The whole point of soy diesel was to...

1. Make another resource for soybeans to be made into
2. Be cheaper and eventually replace petro diesel.

apwatson50 · 08-26-2005, 03:06 PM

If it was cheaper I would definately use it, untill it got really cold. The only real bad thing is the high gel point, but if you just use a 20% mix this is negligible. I've heard that you don't really make any more or less power your mileage might go up .5 to 1 mpg.

They are right that it only costs $.7 cents per gallon to make if you get the oil for free and your time doesn't cost anything. It takes a lot of time.

The oil that you get you don't want to use oil that has animal fats in it, you can but its harder to get good bio. The best oil to use is supposed be from chinese/asian places.

wannadiesel · 08-26-2005, 08:09 PM

Seems like a real pain in the butt to me. When I can buy it from a pump for less than plain ol' #2 fuel oil I'll be interested.

akghound · 08-28-2005, 08:33 PM

I've been running WVO for a year now. Here a couple good forums on using it.
http://www.frybrid.com/test.htm
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/ubb....51&f=159605551
Ken Gardner

ihpower · 08-31-2005, 11:15 AM

how much is the kit to make it

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08-17-2005, 12:34 PM	#1
Mongoose Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sin CIty Posts: 18 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Bio Diesel Just looking for other opinion's on Bio Diesel. If you had the room would you make it yourself and save money??? Thanks for the inputs. __________________ Larry 2002 Dodge Ram 2500 Diesel (Baby Blue) (The Beast) 1974 Camaro Race Car (Primer) 2005 Interstate 28' Enclosed Car Trailer

08-17-2005, 01:13 PM	#3
SHARPMACHINE Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: WEST MICHIGAN Posts: 624 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	I just wish I could see a system at work. I would love to try it, but it is hard to get interested in something that I have never seen. anyone near me macking it????????????? __________________ 1996 2500, 4X4, EXT.CAB, 3.54, BANK$ KIT (from po, not much left of it), #10,4 GSK, DSS, "BULLETPROOF???" AUTO , AND MORE SOON?? ------------------------------------- 2006 MXZ 600 HO SDI X 2001 HONDA 400EX not stock! 2002 YAMAHA KODIAC 400 4X4 2003 IMPALA LS 1996 SATURN SL2 (WHAT CAN I SAY GAS = $$$) 19?? JEEP CJ-YJ-GRAND WAGGY ETC.. 360/727 BLAH,BLAH

08-17-2005, 01:59 PM	#4
Boatnik Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Smithfield, VA Posts: 1,988 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	I've been think'n about it since I bought my truck. We got quite a few fast food restaurants here and they all need to get rid of their french fry oil. How much room and at what cost/savings? __________________ 1992 W350 LE ,Bullydog fuel pin,3200 rpm ,tweaked pump, added timing, 4 inch exhaust from turbo out behind rear wheels, no muffler, BHAF, H1C/16cm with HTT Stage IV upgrade, bigger injectors,Piston LP,DTT Torque converter w/ shift kit,3:54 open axles,1999 club cab seats,reg.cab. My truck is also an alcoholic! July 2006 VA Chapter Truck of the month265hp/558 foot pounds and still looking.

08-17-2005, 02:20 PM	#5
mestdagh Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Between Boulder & Crestone, CO Posts: 256 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	CSAGrey, My local Bio distributor told me fuel mileage should be about the same. __________________ 2005 2500 SLT Quadcab shortbed 4x4 6speed 325/610 3.73 NV5600 My off road package: air dam removed, xfer case & fuel tank skid plates, Line-X rockers, Warn 4x fender flares, Toyo A/T 285/75R17 E rated PIAA reverse / rear lights

08-17-2005, 01:08 PM	#2
CSAGrey1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Moxee Washington Posts: 559 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	A buddy of mine and myself are seriously considering setting up a system in his garage. I have never personally tried the stuff but have heard mostly good about it. We havent decided on WVO or SVO yet, but with the price of fuel right now a bio mix is staring to look really tempting. It is my understanding that one should expect to lose a little bit of power (figure this can be compensated for) but feul milage should go up consideably. __________________ 98.5 2500, 4x4, 3:55, q/c, leather, Green over Silv, 255/85 R16's on factory chromes. Q-Zilla Recon XZT, Stage I AFE, Banks Exhaust brake-4" down pipe-4" mandrell straight-5" chrome stacks, Auto w/ Billet, Mystery Switch, Stage II Dr. Performance module, SMARTY (from Bob), Stage II Jammers (from Rip), dual Campaign LP (part# 4090046), Silencer ring MIA. As well as one smoke blowin' 10/11 meter radio. Waiting for install: 110V generator w/ crank pulley, Cab lights, 3rd gen chrome wheels...

08-17-2005, 02:28 PM	#6
MasseyMan1089 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: S. Illinois Posts: 454 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	I support Soy-biodiesel. I have a bumper sticker on the truck that says "Powered By Soy Bio Diesel. I get tons of questions and comments about it. Im all for it, plus I help grow it! __________________ Matt SOLD! 1995 Dodge 2500 4X4, Auto, 4" straight, 3k gsk, 370s, Laser Cut DVs, BD Super B Turbo, 0 plate, custom Water-Meth Injection 15gph, BHAF, Howard's turbo timer custom mount, Valentine 1 Radar. Goerend Triple Disc T.C., V.B., & Apply Lever "Screw A Farmer, Everyone Else Does"

08-17-2005, 02:41 PM	#7
John Faughn Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: St Paul , MN. Posts: 2,866 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Heres a couple of sites http://www.biodieselcommunity.org<br...seedprocessor/ Biodiesel Appleseed Reactor Planshttp://web. missouri.edu/~pavt0689/biofuel.html Biodiesel-Biofuels Research I could only get one to come up , apple , missouri did a lot of research with our engines. __________________ Build-12-93 Cummins WHC1 94 2500 4x4 SLT AT 3:55 265 R75 16 New Amsoil EAA cone air filter Amsoil 15-40 dualbypass found here about 01-05 DYNO at Mikes feb19 05 245.7HP 597TQ with coming out of lockup -so not sure about HP&TQ DiPrpocl trans temp EGT boost MBRP 4" alum exhaust Centramatics wheel balancers Solid Steel DSS track bar retro fit kit stabbed KDP

08-17-2005, 03:34 PM	#8
Mongoose Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sin CIty Posts: 18 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	I first saw it on an episode of trucks, they showed a kit and how to make it. They say it would cost .60-.70 cents a gallon to make if you get the grease for free, if the business pay you then you would make money. I live in AF Base housing and don't have room for it, if I had room I would be all over it. On trucks they said you actually can make more power because you determine your Cetane Rating???? Guess one would have to do a dyno test.

08-17-2005, 05:09 PM	#9
farmer dave Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Alma, MI Posts: 830 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	I am all for the bio also. The only thing that I have wrong with it is the high gelling point. If they could get thhis figured out then I would definately use it, if there was a pump around here. I have also thought about setting up a system, not real sure on it though. Like SHARPMACHINE said "I just wish I could see a system at work." If it gets much worse I will probably try it though. I would rather just buy soy if I could, seems like it would be cheaper then Dio now. __________________ 01 quad cab 2500 SLT Laramine 4x4, BHAF, Van Aaken, FASS, Isspro EV boost, fuel, and pyro, 5 speed and lovin it May not be right, but I try to make it sound good!

08-17-2005, 06:09 PM	#10
DF5152 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 726 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	although i have not tried it yet, there is no place close that has it, I think its a good idea. As far as WVO i am current setting up a mercedes 300D to run on WVO. as far as making my own bio fuel I dont know that i would want those chemical around I have a small child and if not properly handled the chemical are very dangerous. just getting lye on your skin will burn you and the alcohol is just as bad. there is some places on the net that talks about using acid and although is very caustic there is no titration involved, if i remember correctly. Also it cuts down on the byproducts left using the lye method __________________ 2003 Ram 3500 SB SRW HO 48RE 4.10's SOLD 2010 3500 Crew Cad Long Bed Auto On Its Way

08-26-2005, 11:32 AM	#11
cdwmotorsports Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 8 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	"I support Soy-biodiesel. I have a bumper sticker on the truck that says "Powered By Soy Bio Diesel. I get tons of questions and comments about it. Im all for it, plus I help grow it!" I would more likely buy Soy diesel if it were cheaper than petro, but since it is the same or more around here I will make my own from the french fry oil. The whole point of soy diesel was to... 1. Make another resource for soybeans to be made into 2. Be cheaper and eventually replace petro diesel. __________________ (Ads Removed site violation) 93 Ext cab D350 no bed 181k stock right now trying to figure out a few problems on it before bombing it. Going to be rebodied with a 78 crewcab shortbed dually. http://www.cdwmotorsports.com/crewcab_build.htm

08-26-2005, 03:06 PM	#12
apwatson50 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Golden, Colorado Posts: 2,539 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	If it was cheaper I would definately use it, untill it got really cold. The only real bad thing is the high gel point, but if you just use a 20% mix this is negligible. I've heard that you don't really make any more or less power your mileage might go up .5 to 1 mpg. They are right that it only costs $.7 cents per gallon to make if you get the oil for free and your time doesn't cost anything. It takes a lot of time. The oil that you get you don't want to use oil that has animal fats in it, you can but its harder to get good bio. The best oil to use is supposed be from chinese/asian places. __________________ 92 Black W250 280K, getrag, dana 80 3.54, HX40, 190 injectors, high psi piston LP with swagelok return regulator, custom IP, M&H M2 fuel pin, PS charge air cooler, 4 in exhaust w/ brake, gauges(and lots of them) Leece Neville power. 93 White D250 auto stock almost....gauges(not as many) pump tweaks, hx35/40/16cm hybridM&H M3 pin low psi piston LP http://s218.photobucket.com/albums/c...Truck%20stuff/

08-26-2005, 08:09 PM	#13
wannadiesel Ad-meany-strator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Holland, PA Posts: 21,064 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Seems like a real pain in the butt to me. When I can buy it from a pump for less than plain ol' #2 fuel oil I'll be interested. __________________ '93 D350 - DPS 6x16's, HTT Stage IV/14wg, PowerStroke IC, Snow water/meth, Walbro 392, Con-FE, pump tampering by owner. 386 HP/774 TQ on #2 only, 408 HP/844 TQ w/ water/meth - needs more air! "Butterscotch" - '82 Mercedes 300TD Dead KDP's = 72 wannadiesel@dieseltruckresource.com

08-28-2005, 08:33 PM	#14
akghound Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Montana City, Montana Posts: 138 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	WVO I've been running WVO for a year now. Here a couple good forums on using it. http://www.frybrid.com/test.htm http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/ubb....51&f=159605551 Ken Gardner __________________ One Day At A Time 96 2500 4x4 Cummins Converted to WVO 4" Exhaust, #11 plate, Firestone Airbag Suspention Gauges; Boost, EGT, Tranny & Diff Temps. Living off grid-16/1 Listeroid Diesel Generator on WVO akghound{at}gmail.com

08-31-2005, 11:15 AM	#15
ihpower Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orient Oh Posts: 354 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	how much is the kit to make it __________________ 1990 w250 4x4 auto, Isspro guages in home made dash mount, PODs, Fuel screw in a lot, Fuel pin not quite stock, AFC ground, Lots of timing, Htt stage III/18.5 turbo, 3200 spring, Piston lift pump, Bhaf with home made air box, BLACK 5 inch stacks with rain caps built 518 trans 293.2hp/732.2 tq with stock lift pump, HP curve not quite what is should be new number 300hp/750 tq

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