Beginning in October, the Army plans to station an active unit inside the United States for the first time to serve as an on-call federal response in times of emergency. The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent thirty-five of the last sixty months in Iraq, but now the unit is training for domestic operations. The unit will soon be under the day-to-day control of US Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command. The Army Times reports this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to Northern Command. The paper says the Army unit may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control. The soldiers are learning to use so-called nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals and crowds.:o

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/9/22/headlines

Interesting. Maybe they are preparing for post election unrest.

Ladies and gentlemen, posse comitatus has left the building...

Interesting if US troops are deployed stateside, supporting National Guard? Is it even legal w/Constitution (if that still matters??)[tapdshut]

Since we have a reasonable contingent of Military here,......... Let me ask Y'all something in a theoretical sense.

Should it come to it, would you fire upon your fellow citizens?

I think I know the answer, but lets see.

Obviously this would not be in a situation where you were being fired upon, but a situation where you were told to fire upon citizens protesting.

Where you see Anarchists - which is a politically correct way of saying Terrorist - you will see a need for these troops to be deployed. Just think of where you've seen Anarchists/Terrorists using terrorism to fire up a peaceful protest and turn it into a situation that requires a heavy hand to quell. Then they can say "who me"[yuk][yuk]

Bob

In my opinion you will see lots of boys in uniform for the visual affect. It will be groups like Blackwater that will be commanded to fire upon nonresponsive crowds, etc. and yes, they will do it without questions just like good soldiers do.

I don't think they are thinking Martial Law just yet but if Obama doesn't get elected we will have riots like we haven't seen. It will be the man keeping everyone down. Not to mention the fact that if the economy doesn't get jump started, revolution isn't probably far behind. Then, Martial Law will become reality. Disarmed citizens are much easier to control than armed ones. Don't let anyone kid you, we are in interesting times. Not saying end times but interesting nonetheless.

BTW, picked up another AK last night from my guy and I have a couple thousand more rounds of 7.62 on order. Just saying.

A friend of mine made me go see John Kennedy at Charter day cermonies in 1962,then he was gone and we worried about the nation.When Martin King was killed we held our breath as a nation to see what was going to happen.Regan,not so much as people stepped in and handled the current affairs.However...there are two thoughts going thru my mind.(1) The loss of liberties comes from the left,and(2)I feel very uncomfortable when all the bits of "North American Union:","we need to do this now for your own good" and the capper,(3) American Troops on American Soil,not SWAT Teams,not The State Milita manned by reservists,BUT FRONT LINE TROOPERS for "possible civilian" duties! I certainly and sincerly hope this uncomfortable feeling I have will go away.

I don't think they are thinking Martial Law just yet but if Obama doesn't get elected we will have riots like we haven't seen.

Pretty much sums up what liberals (democrats??) are all about. You can think/say/teach anything you like as long as it agrees with them. If they don't like they can do whatever they want and it's called self-expression. Like Jesse says, "they're disenfranchised...", someone is always trying to oppress them. [tapdshut]

If a conservative even thinks about something like that, they are a racist, close-minded, bigot. [verymad]

Yea right... [director]

Ladies and gentlemen, posse comitatus has left the building...

Bingo, martial law has already been discussed. They know the natives are restless. Besides how can Obama do a gun grab if we are all armed without an army to back him up.[laugh] As for the leftie loonies stealing liberties Bush has taken away more liberty than any other president since.............Abe Lincoln.

So, we should elect somebody for fear of riots if we don't? What a fine system we have. Rich

for those of you guys who think that the libs are the only one's after our rights, do a little more research. Every action is premeditated, to set a chain of events that have one goal. Facism. it is on the horizon with either McCain or Obama, so to keep saying the left loves terrorists and hates america, look at bush and company's history a little bit deaper.

I watch a lot of zombie movies. It is usually the military who wipes them out.
So I think they are forming a zombie annihilation squad. I could be mistaken though.

I watch a lot of zombie movies. It is usually the military who wipes them out.
So I think they are forming a zombie annihilation squad. I could be mistaken though.
I am sure that has to be it.[duhhh]

I watch a lot of zombie movies. It is usually the military who wipes them out.
So I think they are forming a zombie annihilation squad. I could be mistaken though.

Is that Zombies or Obomabies [laugh][laugh]

Unmarked Black Helios DO exist................

I see them frequently flying along the Potomac River in DC.

There are also several installations that don't exist, full of people that don't exist, performing missions that don't exist.

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Shall we take a tour of history?

Can you say Ruby Ridge, Waco or White Water?

Here's part 1 of a 12 part series on the Waco investigation, it starts getting interesting on 6 - Google "Clinton Body Count"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYVRhXOJiJs&feature=related

Uh Ed...does this mean that there is no reason for paranoia but ...that we are being watched,for our own protection?[duhhh]

Same questions was being ask when the ATF had OV-10's during the Clinton administration.

MikeyB

Soooo would activating the national gaurd be a quick enouph reaction to an attack? Should we tell the air force to quit patrolling since we have the air gaurd to react? Don't get me wrong, I know they have been assisting with patrols and work cargo/transport around the clock, but why should the air be treated different than to have reaction teams on the ground? Can you trust activist, local political leaders to unleash the aid? Look at a certain mayor and governor in Louisiana. Look at what Mayor Quami was doing to Detroit PD. Our state police were held hostage for a short time during budget wars. Not just a highway patrol, full service and in some places, the only law enforcement, also a history of mileage restrictions, lay-offs and lay-off threats. Locals are really feeling the constraints and laying off every day. Flint PD (Michael Moore's hometown) is about 1/3 it's size a couple years a go. Don't think the guy wearing the uniform doesn't want to get there to help the best he can, "they" just don't make it easy for the guy who WANTS to work. I say the more redundancy and mutual aid, the better and the toupher it should be for something to slip through the cracks again. Plus, most don't have time to arbitrarily chase around the common man, there's too much to do. It's just the chicken littles that start drawing attention to themselves that start getting watched with intrest.

Ram thank you for that video,very disquieting and a number of points to ponder.Aka how do we protect ourselves from the excesses of "The Government"?

Since we have a reasonable contingent of Military here,......... Let me ask Y'all something in a theoretical sense.

Should it come to it, would you fire upon your fellow citizens?

I think I know the answer, but lets see.

Obviously this would not be in a situation where you were being fired upon, but a situation where you were told to fire upon citizens protesting.


When I was in the military I swore an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic."

I've never seen anyone who has bothered to define that latter part.

I could see how it might be interpreted to justify using force against US citizens.


For now, I'm happy to fulfill my oath to support and defend against domestic enemies by not voting Democrat[laugh][laugh]

jh

Uh Ed...does this mean that there is no reason for paranoia but ...that we are being watched,for our own protection?[duhhh]

Pay no attention to the Helios....they are of little consequence.
We have satellites that can see if your shoes are tied. [tapdshut]

I'll add my part with regards to building a conspiracy...

Maunder Minimum and Little Ice Age... Hence the need for boots on the ground to control the population. People become desperate when food becomes scarce. Bundle up people is going to be interesting.

Why do you think Al Gore has packed on his extra blubber?[laugh]

I'll add my part with regards to building a conspiracy...

Maunder Minimum and Little Ice Age... Hence the need for boots on the ground to control the population. People become desperate when food becomes scarce. Bundle up people is going to be interesting.


Phoenix, here i come!

Chipmonk,funny you say that,I have a spot picked out about 900 miles south of Phx.Ed,I'm a gonna go so far to ground even the Chinese sats won't find me.[laugh]Justin that oath that many of us took I feel was aimed at J.Edgars feelings toward The Communist Party of the period.Today however,the Communist/Liberal/Progressive Party is in power.

Ram thank you for that video,very disquieting and a number of points to ponder.Aka how do we protect ourselves from the excesses of "The Government"?

Glad you watched it.. We tend to believe what they tell us were seeing live on TV.. The truth gets replaced by Neilson ratings...