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Old 11-09-2011, 01:47 PM
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This would look scary in your rear-view mirror



http://www.autoweek.com/article/2011...n=awdailydrive
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I got in an accident in northern Wisconsin back in 07 and one of the first officers on scene had a quad cab Cummins with strobes in the grill.
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an engine hour meter and idle hour meter for keeping track of maintenance and use.

Cop-spec electrical gear is part of the package too, with a 220-amp alternator and a unique wiring harness delivering power via an electrical distribution center, with fuses and relays for a camera, computer, modem and printers.


Some nice stuff to have.
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Originally Posted by Tedonlin150
I got in an accident in northern Wisconsin back in 07 and one of the first officers on scene had a quad cab Cummins with strobes in the grill.


Sounds like it might have been Walker.
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That has a redneck look to it, maybe something the Border Patrol or something a private security would have.

Wonder how that would do in a pursuit or a strong crosswind on the I-15 through Gorman to Vegas?
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Originally Posted by Jim Lane
That has a redneck look to it, maybe something the Border Patrol or something a private security would have.

Wonder how that would do in a pursuit or a strong crosswind on the I-15 through Gorman to Vegas?

Pretty poorly would be my guess

The article I read on it a few days ago even said the package is not intended for use as a pursuit vehicle.

As a tactical (pursuit) driving instructor for years here's my take on it.
With the added weight, stock suspension and brakes, 17" wheels and factory sized tires, and in pick up configuration, especially if those "RAM BOXES" were loaded, I wouldn't want to have to spend any serious time at high speed in the twisties with it.

And what's this nonsense about "ballistic materials used by law enforcement?"

Maybe the Border Patrol, but I don't know of a single agency on the local, state or county level, that's "uparmored" any standard patrol vehicle

All in all though, I wouldn't mind having several of those features (electrical system and such) in a nice diesel MEGA CAB
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Originally Posted by Off Duty
Pretty poorly would be my guess

The article I read on it a few days ago even said the package is not intended for use as a pursuit vehicle.

As a tactical (pursuit) driving instructor for years here's my take on it.
With the added weight, stock suspension and brakes, 17" wheels and factory sized tires, and in pick up configuration, especially if those "RAM BOXES" were loaded, I wouldn't want to have to spend any serious time at high speed in the twisties with it.

And what's this nonsense about "ballistic materials used by law enforcement?"

Maybe the Border Patrol, but I don't know of a single agency on the local, state or county level, that's "uparmored" any standard patrol vehicle

All in all though, I wouldn't mind having several of those features (electrical system and such) in a nice diesel MEGA CAB

The only thing ballistic on the police cars around here are what the guys are wearing unless you can count the lexan snot shield between the seats, I have been in many LACO Sheriffs cars and local PD's and I have yet to see any Armor in the door shells.

Some poor guy is going to get behind the wheel after his being in his Crown Vic and loose it around the first corner when he turns and the car continues going straight.

Now I could see a local PD using one as a PR tool for the CSO's to drive towing a radar trailer.

I have seen more limos loaded with armor than police cars.

Also seeing the way the factory does wiring, 200-amps will cause one blazing toxic inferno when it shorts out.

What agency are you with?
Do you have any units with the Federal Rumbler installed?

BTW has anyone sucuessfully installed ballistic armor on our trucks? my next project..

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Jim,

I'll shoot you a PM.

You nailed it on all points.
You simpy don't use a pick up truck, especially a 4x4 (vs AWD) as a pursuit vehicle. They're purpose built and relatively limited in their usefulness and capabilities.
They certainly have their place though, and I can see them in use with CBP, Port Agencies, Airports, etc., as well as with certain aspects of a tactical unit, dive team, etc.
We could have used one to tow our motorcycle trailers for the motor unit.

As you mentioned, most agencies aren't going to "armor" a standard police patrol vehicle. Too costly and too heavy.

As for ballistic material in our POV's, I thought about it once on another vehicle, but the bottom line is, as long as we have pneumatic tires, and glass windows, what'st the purpose?
There's always going to be multiple weak spots.
And to do it right, to the poinht of any "real" protection, makes them unrealistic as a DD. They become heavy(ier), less user friendly, etc.

On a side note, here's a U-Tube clip (if I did this correctly?) on the new Ferds that are likely to be out this coming run.
Now these are "purpose built" police vehicles.
The rep/narrator is a bit on the Edited by Admin, but the information is pretty decent


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEh3N...eature=related
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Originally Posted by Off Duty
Jim,

I'll shoot you a PM.
Don't bother... it won't get thru his 'ballistic armored' firewall!

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