MAragorn

Wix makes pretty good oil filters, from everything I have read about them. And they used to make the Penske oil filters.

I am wondering if anyone has used them on their Cummins diesel.

I can get some of the Wix made Penske oil filters to fit the Cummins diesels pretty cheap, in fact less than 1/2 cost for the standard Fleetguard filters. I change my oil every 4000 miles (I use the Quaker State Universal HDX diesel oil because I want to take advantage of their 250,000 mile warranty), so I won't be challenging the life of the filters I believe.

Any specific reason anyone knows why NOT to use these filters?

Hoss

Don't know of a reason NOT to....except that Cummins recommends using Fleetguard Stratopore....which are only about $9. I've been told recently that you get what you pay for...and this is one instance where I believe that. I don't think $9 is too much to spend every 4000 miles, but that's just me.

Commatoze

I've read but can't verify that Penske filters are made by Fram now...and...well...... : There are guys here on the forum that use Wix as well as other "diesel filters" like Baldwin, Donaldson, and Hastings. I don't know the details of your truck, but I'd recommend using a filter from the list of DC approved filters. Like Hoss I use the Fleetguard Stratapore filter on my 02.

MAragorn

You are right, Fram makes the new Penske filters, or so I am told. These are older, Wix-made filters.

I have also used the Stratopore filters to this point.

Where is there a list of approved filters? I have not seen that.

wheels

I have used Wix filters on my truck since it was new. I used Wix filters for years on all of my pulling units when I was in the oilfields and also when I was driving a 18 wheeler over the road. I changed the filters every 100 hours on the equipment I was in charge of. I have put well over 1 million miles on different trucks and equipment and I have never had a problem with wix filters yet. Wix is made by Dana which is a very reputable company.

Keith

Commatoze

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You are right, Fram makes the new Penske filters, or so I am told. These are older, Wix-made filters.

I have also used the Stratopore filters to this point.

Where is there a list of approved filters? I have not seen that.
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Here's a site that contains a reprint of a DC TSB regarding the filter list:
http://dodgeram.info/tsb/2001/09-004-01.htm

TPilaske

I hear the Wix filters are good. Personally, I use Baldwins. There's plenty of good filters out there besides the DC "approved list." :



Tony

MAragorn

I emailed Wix about all this, and I got this info back from them:

"We originally made this (Penske) brand but have not supplied them for about 3 years now. The Penske part number you mentioned is a direct cross reference to our 51607 part number which is what we have assigned to your application. Assuming their current supplier is using the m same part numbering system, you should be fine."

Does the 51607 have a fluted bottom so it can be used on the 2003 Cummins diesel Dodge? What kind of performance would I get out of the Wix filter as far as particulate size, etc?


"The media in our 51607 part number is rated at 17 micron. Please note, a particle that is 1 micron in diameter is .000039" across. We are working on a fluted version for release in the future but our customers are successfully using our current version on these engines today."

I am comparing the Wix filter to the Fleetguard filters. Can you give me pressure drop data on this filter at 14 gpm?

"At 14 gpm, our initial restriction is 2.3 psi."

Are Wix filters not approved for the Cummins Diesel?

"The filters on this (approved) list are all made by Fleetguard who is owned by Cummins. They are not going to "approve" any other brand because they can't provide warranty consideration. Our 51607 outperforms their product
even to exceeding their static burst pressure requirement. Our product is covered by our product warranty and can be used with full confidence on your application."

Additionally I found this Product Quality Information Bulletin for this filter from July 2001:

http://www.wixconnect.com/assets/516...LLETIN.pdf.pdf

I am comfortable in using the Wix and Wix/Penske filters now. I would NOT use the Fram/Penske filters.

Dr. Evil

If your truck is still under engine warranty - I would strongly suggesting using an "approved" filter. If anything did go wrong with an unapproved filter - that would be the first thing they would blame it on.

Dr. Evil

I don't doubt that there are other good filters out there - Mobile 1, Wix, Baldwin (my truck had a Baldwin on it when I picked it up), & Hastings all come to mind - Im sure they are all pretty good filters but the fact remains that they are not "approved" and IMO, saving a $2 on a filter is really not worth the headache should you have any engine problems while under warranty.

shortround

Big Ed,
I guess that since Fleetguard makes Motorcraft and AC, then Cummins must own Ford and GM. ;D

nevermissingachancetostirthepotShortround out

KC

Do your self a favor buy Fleet Gaurd Stratopore filters! Stay away from fram filters, do a search and you will find out some scary stories!!

KC

geer

I paid for a Cummins, Fleetguard is maid by Cummins. In my opinion it is worth the extra money to by the filter made by the same company. Just my .02

P Kennedy

$50,000 truck= 500,000 miles divided by 5000 miles per oil change= 100 oil changes at $9 per filter vs $6 per filter = $3 savings x 100 oil changes = $300.00 savings divided by 120 months (10years) = $2.50 per month saving. Cost of engine total replacement $18,000 in crate = $150.00 per month. In other words you would take the chance of sacrificing your engine and warranty for the cost of three chocolate bars per month. These would be Canadian dollar values so in US dollars you save even less per month. Why?????????? PK